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GM TSB on retrofitting

wptski on Thu July 25, 2013 9:00 AM User is offline

I ran across a post in a Corvette forum about retrofitting which had this updated TSB which is a bit old. Interesting updated section on mineral oil residue.

#33-12-26: RETROFITTING R-12 VEHICLES TO R-134A (INFORMATIONAL) - (May 10, 1997)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- REVISION 01/18/94

THIS BULLETIN HAS BEEN REVISED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN THE "RESIDUAL MINERAL OIL" SECTION. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

SUBJECT: RETROFITTING R-12 VEHICLES TO R-134A

MODELS: 1994 AND PRIOR YEARS, PASSENGER CARS AND TRUCKS WITH R-12 A/C SYSTEMS

THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION PRESENTED BY THE MEDIA REGARDING THE NEED TO RETROFIT VEHICLES PRODUCED WITH R-12, TO A SUBSTITUTE REFRIGERANT. THIS BULLETIN WILL OUTLINE GM'S POSITION AND FUTURE PLANS ON THIS SUBJECT.

**MOST IMPORTANT, THERE IS CURRENTLY NO REQUIREMENT TO RETROFIT ANY R-12 VEHICLE. VEHICLES BUILT WITH R-12 CAN BE SERVICED WITH R-12, AS LONG AS THE REFRIGERANT IS AVAILABLE.** AT SOME POINT IN TIME, R-12 MAY BECOME EITHER TOO SCARCE OR TOO EXPENSIVE TO ECONOMICALLY JUSTIFY SERVICE ON SOME VEHICLES WITH R-12. BY THAT TIME, GM WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON RETROFITTING THOSE VEHICLES FROM R-12 TO R-134A.

GM VEHICLE DIVISIONS, PLATFORMS, AND COMPONENT SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE DETAILS OF RETROFITTING R-12 VEHICLES. AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK IS REQUIRED TO DETERMINE HOW HUNDREDS OF VEHICLE MODELS CAN BE SATISFACTORILY RETROFITTED. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS CONTAIN IMPORTANT TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT SHOULD ANSWER MANY OF THE QUESTIONS, AND CORRECT SOME MISCONCEPTIONS REPORTED IN THE MEDIA.

SUBSTITUTE REFRIGERANTS

R-134A IS THE **ONLY** APPROVED SUBSTITUTE REFRIGERANT THAT GM RECOMMENDS AND IT SHOULD ONLY BE USED IF A COMPLETE RETROFIT PROCEDURE HAS BEEN PERFORMED. **NONE OF THE OTHER REFRIGERANTS CURRENTLY BEING MARKETED AS REPLACEMENT OR DROP-IN SUBSTITUTES FOR R-12 ARE APPROVED FOR USE IN GM VEHICLES.**

R-12 AND R-134A ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. R-134A CANNOT BE ADDED TO FILL A LOW R-12 SYSTEM. THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO MATERIALS CAN CAUSE HIGH SYSTEM PRESSURES, WHICH COULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE SYSTEM.

RETROFITTING AN R-12 VEHICLE TO R-134A REQUIRES CAREFUL PREPARATION TO INSURE THAT NEITHER THE VEHICLE NOR THE A/C SERVICE EQUIPMENT HAS BECOME CONTAMINATED.

RESIDUAL MINERAL OIL

THE CONCERN THAT MINERAL OIL IS CHEMICALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH R-134A AND/OR PAG LUBRICANT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE UNTRUE. A NORMAL CHARGE OF MINERAL OIL LEFT IN THE A/C SYSTEM AFTER A RETROFIT TO R-134A WILL NOT DAMAGE THE SYSTEM. MINERAL OIL, HOWEVER, DOES NOT MIX WELL WITH R- 134A, AND WILL NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE LUBRICATION. TESTS ON BOTH THE ORIFICE TUBE AND TXV SYSTEMS SHOW THAT THE MINERAL OIL PARKS IN PLACES SUCH AS THE ACCUMULATOR, AND DOES NOT APPRECIABLY AFFECT PERFORMANCE OR DAMAGE THE SYSTEM. THE RETROFIT SERVICE BULLETIN WILL SPECIFY THE CORRECT OIL TO BE USED. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THIS OIL RECOMMENDATION BE FOLLOWED CAREFULLY.

RESIDUAL R-12

RESIDUAL R-12 LEFT IN A SYSTEM, DUE TO IMPROPER RETROFIT SERVICE PROCEDURES, MAY RESULT IN SYSTEM DAMAGE UNLESS THE RESIDUAL R-12 IS KEPT BELOW THE 2 PERCENT LIMIT SPECIFIED BY THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING'S SPECIFICATION J-1661. NEW SERVICE METHODS ARE BEING DEVELOPED TO MINIMIZE THE LEVEL OF R-12 REMAINING IN THE A/C SYSTEM AFTER THE RETROFIT PROCEDURE IS COMPLETED. FOLLOWING THESE NEW PROCEDURES WILL BE CRITICAL TO INSURE THAT THE ABOVE LIMITS ARE MET.

SYSTEM FLUSHING

R-11, A MATERIAL COMMONLY USED AS AN A/C SYSTEM FLUSHING SOLVENT, HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE CHEMICALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH PAG LUBRICANT. TECHNICIANS SHOULD BE AWARE THAT RESIDUAL R-11 REMAINING IN AN R-12 SYSTEM WILL BE VERY DAMAGING IF THE VEHICLE IS RETROFITTED TO R-134A LATER IN ITS LIFE. FOR MANY YEARS GM HAS RECOMMENDED THE USE OF IN-LINE FILTERS AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SYSTEM FLUSHING.

**SYSTEM FLUSHING, USING EITHER R-11 OR ANY OTHER FLUSHING MATERIAL, IS NOT APPROVED BY GM FOR ANY A/C SYSTEM.**

DESICCANT PROTECTION

IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT THE DESICCANT (MOISTURE ABSORPTION MATERIAL) USED IN 1992 AND OLDER R-12 A/C SYSTEMS IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH R-134A AND PAG OIL. THE OLDER DESICCANT WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR R-12 SYSTEMS, BUT TESTING HAS SHOWN THAT IT IS **NOT** NECESSARY TO REPLACE THE OLDER DESICCANT JUST BECAUSE THE VEHICLE IS BEING RETROFITTED TO R-134A. 1993 AND NEWER GM VEHICLES USE DESICCANT DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH R-12 AND R-134A SYSTEMS.

THE AMOUNT OF DESICCANT USED IN MOST GM VEHICLES IS DESIGNED TO LAST FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS. TO HELP MAINTAIN ADEQUATE PROTECTION FOR VEHICLES THAT MUST BE RETROFITTED, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE ACCUMULATOR/DRYER, WHICH CONTAINS THE DESICCANT, BE REPLACED IF THE VEHICLE IS MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OLD.

"O" RINGS

WHILE CONTINUING TO SERVICE WITH R-12, BE SURE TO USE "O" RINGS AND SEAL MATERIALS WHICH ARE COMPATIBLE WITH R-134A AND PAG OIL. THIS PRACTICE WILL ELIMINATE CONCERN IN CASE THE VEHICLE REQUIRES RETROFITTING LATER IN ITS LIFE. ALL "O" RINGS AND SEAL MATERIALS AVAILABLE FROM GMSPO ARE COMPATIBLE WITH R-134A SYSTEMS.

RETROFITTED SYSTEM PERFORMANCE

CURRENTLY, IT APPEARS THAT FOR MOST GM VEHICLES, THE RETROFIT PROCEDURE WILL REQUIRE MINIMAL CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SYSTEM. SOME VEHICLES MAY NEED ADDITIONAL PARTS AND/OR PROCEDURES TO PROVIDE ACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE AND/OR DURABILITY. OUR TESTING HAS SHOWN THAT VEHICLES THAT HAVE UNDERGONE RECOMMENDED RETROFIT PROCEDURES WILL, IN MOST CLIMATIC CONDITIONS, BE MINIMALLY AFFECTED IN TERMS OF A/C PERFORMANCE.

SERVICE POLICY

BASIC SERVICE POLICY IS AS FOLLOWS:

DURING WARRANTY - IF AN R-12 PRODUCED VEHICLE A/C SYSTEM MUST BE REPAIRED OR RECHARGED UNDER WARRANTY, REPAIRS WILL BE COMPLETED USING R-12. IF R-12 IS UNAVAILABLE OR UNAFFORDABLE, GM WILL NOTIFY THE DEALER BODY AND WILL PAY FOR THE WARRANTY REPAIR AND THE RETROFIT TO R-134A.

NOTE: IF A CUSTOMER REQUESTS THAT AN IN-WARRANTY VEHICLE BE CONVERTED TO R-134A, AND THE R-12 SYSTEM IS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY, THE CUSTOMER WILL BE EXPECTED TO PAY FOR THE RETROFIT.

OUT OF WARRANTY - THE COST OF THE CONVERSION WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER.

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GENERAL MOTORS BULLETINS ARE INTENDED FOR USE BY PROFESSIONAL TECHNICIANS, NOT A "DO-IT-YOURSELFER". THEY ARE WRITTEN TO INFORM THOSE TECHNICIANS OF CONDITIONS THAT MAY OCCUR ON SOME VEHICLES, OR TO PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT COULD ASSIST IN THE PROPER SERVICE OF A VEHICLE. PROPERLY TRAINED TECHNICIANS HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, TOOLS, SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS AND KNOW-HOW TO DO A JOB PROPERLY AND SAFELY. IF A CONDITION IS DESCRIBED, DO NOT ASSUME THAT THE BULLETIN APPLIES TO YOUR VEHICLE, OR THAT YOUR VEHICLE WILL HAVE THAT CONDITION. SEE A GENERAL MOTORS DEALER SERVICING YOUR BRAND OF GENERAL MOTORS VEHICLE FOR INFORMATION ON WHETHER YOUR VEHICLE MAY BENEFIT FROM THE INFORMATION.

COPYRIGHT 1993 GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.

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