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Chick on Sat May 22, 2004 3:26 PM User is offlineView users profile

George bush & war

George Bush goes to a primary school to talk about the war. After his talk
he offers question time. One little boy puts up his hand and George asks
him what his name is. "Billy."
"And what is your question, Billy?"
"I have 3 questions:
First, why did the USA invade Iraq without the support of the UN?
Second, why are you President when Al Gore got more votes?
And third, whatever happened to Osama Bin Laden?"

Just then the bell rings for recess. George Bush informs the kiddies that
they will continue after recess.

When they resume George says,
"OK, where were we? Oh, that's right it's question time. Who has a
question?"
Another little boy puts up his hand.
George points him out and asks him what his name is.
"Steve"
"And what is your question, Steve?"
I have 5 questions:
First, why did the USA invade Iraq without the support of the UN?
Second, why are you President when Al Gore got more votes?
Third, whatever happened to Osama Bin Laden?
Fourth, why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?
And fifth, what the hell happened to Billy?"



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TRB on Sat May 22, 2004 3:41 PM User is offlineView users profile

The United States of America needs no ones permission to protect it self or its interests!

President Bush won the election because a thing called the Electoral Collage. Don't like the rule change it!

UBL is still around but hope you never see him again!!!

Bell must have been broke!

Billy, he's over in Kerry's SVU. Wait its not his SUV its his families!!! Wait he voted for it before voteing against it. Wait those weren't his medals but someone's else's that he threw back. Wait they were only someone else's ribbons.

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poav on Sat May 22, 2004 7:29 PM User is offline

amazing--

this exact same joke in context passed thru my email about a month ago but the speaker was
hillary clinton answering a bunch of embarrasing questions --some about hubby bill-- and even
the little missing boy's name was billy in that one.

so, i wonder if the original was really hillary or george b. or does it really matter. main thing is,
geroge is at the helm and doing a bang up job....time will tell just like when the berlin wall fell
and germany became democratized.

Karl Hofmann on Sat May 22, 2004 7:53 PM User is offlineView users profile

LOL and aren't the Germans really pleased about that!. The West because suddenly all of their considerable wealth has gone to rebuild the run down and highly poluting industries in the East, exchanging billions of aluminium "Ost Marks" for Deutch Marks. The East are dissatisfied because prices have gone up, unemployment has gone through the roof and the young are leaving the East in their droves.

There are theories that the reunification of Germany was designed to really mess them up.

I'm afraid that I'm not really a big fan of George, Clinton made a far more positive impression on the world stage, needs to get rid of that stuck up wife of his though!

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Chick on Sat May 22, 2004 8:01 PM User is offlineView users profile

Bill may have tried Karl..."Someone send Monica in for some dicktaion" please...Oh no, now I'm doing the political thing.....

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Karl Hofmann on Sat May 22, 2004 8:12 PM User is offlineView users profile

That's the spooky bit about Hilary, any self respecting woman would have hit the roof, dumped him and then emptied his bank account. I do suspect that she may have boiled his pet rabbit though

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Anonymous on Sat May 22, 2004 8:22 PM User is offline

About Hillary not dumping WJC for infidelity,
Maybe that's what F. Scott Fitzgerald meant when he said, "The rich are different from you and me."

TRB on Sat May 22, 2004 8:24 PM User is offlineView users profile

That marriage is more about political greed then husband and wife. Karl, hows the UN money laundry going!!!! Chick you have got to have a sense of humor about these things! As there is no clear political side looking out for us!!!!

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dieseltech on Sat May 22, 2004 9:00 PM User is offline

The UN is much more of a joke than yours.

Chick on Sat May 22, 2004 9:03 PM User is offlineView users profile

But Tim, I thought I had a sense of humor..Don't the politicians look out for us every day?? After all they are voted in by us, then make laws none of us want..Almost like we "have" to vote for them to make decisions we don't like...Hey, something is wrong here!!!

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TRB on Sat May 22, 2004 10:35 PM User is offlineView users profile

More like we get to choose between two evils! I'm not just talking about the presidential race but politics in general.

I know you have a sense of humor buddy! You have too with a name like Chick!!

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poav on Sun May 23, 2004 4:15 AM User is offline

karl--

it's nice to see someone else besides the US spreading their considerable wealth around.

hey, we dont want all those poluting industries contaminating the environment now, do we--
kudos to West Germany.

where are all these droves of people going to---russia?? it's my bet they would love to live
in the good old USA despite their rampant hatred for Americans. it's is so wonderful here
in the states that you get paid and fed even when you dont have a job.... and if clinton
were still in office the unemployed would probably be earning twice as much.

Karl Hofmann on Mon May 24, 2004 3:27 AM User is offlineView users profile

Poav

The young folk of the former East Germany are going to the West, plenty of well established factories and offices. I have realatives who live in the town of Wittenberge on the river Elbe and the younger members have all moved to Hamburg or Berlin. You'd have to be smoking Crack to want to move to Russia.

I visited Wittenberge just before reunification and the chemical plants there just dumped their wase in to the air or in to the river, and the whole place stunk like the toxic waste site it was, but the first thing that they did when Berlin took over was to close the factories and clean the area.

I'm not sure that I understand your belief that everyone wants to move to the USA, even now the standard of living is better in Germany than th US, waitresses dont have to rely on tips for their wages, state pensions are very good Mercedes and BMWs are cheap and plentifull and the beer has no additives. We are thinking of buying property on the continent, and Germany is right up there with Spain on my options list.
Even less do I understand your bizare view that the Germans hate you, remember their leaders led them in to two wars, perhaps they had an alternative view to the US. The foreign policy of any country is made up of shades of grey, you seem to think that it should be black and white, it aint.

So how did bush reduce the dole queues (Unemployed) ? Send em all off to Iraq? Working on the theory that if they weren't properly trained then a large number of them would either get them selves shot or shoot themselves?

OK Tim, I'll bite
You guys seem absolutely amazed that the thought that there is a bit of dodgy dealing in the UN, but you also forget to look too closely at your own government, are you sure that they are squeeky clean? Who put Saddam in power, who funded him, who sold him his materials? (The EU countries did well out of that as well) It would seem that the US have made a pretty penny from this, but to divert attention away from your own government the spotlight is drawn on to the UN. well guess what, the UN, EU, US, China, Russia and many other countries are all making a good income from this area.

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poav on Mon May 24, 2004 7:33 AM User is offline



So how did bush reduce the dole queues (Unemployed) ? Send em all off to Iraq? Working on the theory that if they weren't properly trained then a large number of them would either get them selves shot or shoot themselvesft>

i guess we all have our views of what is bizarre and i probably should have used the term 'general dislike' but, bush sending American troops to Iraq to solve an unemployment issue could well be used in the webster dictionary to define bizarre. now, the statement about moving to russia was meant to
be bizzare.

i am not familiar with Germany's immigration laws but i sense a reluctance in even wanting to
help your own countrymen. did their exposure under communism for all those years change
their blood origin?

i liked that theory about "messing them up" thru reunification ... i'm sure it was solely developed
by the US to keep a prospering country in check and not allow it to become a superpower. maybe
true isolationism is the real answer to happiness...why worry about anything but your own welfare.

peace,

poav

Karl Hofmann on Mon May 24, 2004 9:06 AM User is offlineView users profile

Sometimes it pays to mind your own business. A husband and wife are having a disagreement in the street, a wise man knows to leave well alone, because they will both turn on him

The German immigration policy is simple, if you have an EC member state passport, then you have the right to live there. West Germany was never Communist, East Germany was under control from Russia. Imagine if you will, the shock of having to rebuild the infrastructure of a country roughly one third the size of your country and bring standards up to a level that have taken from 1945 to buid, almost over night. Too right they weren't happy! Remember also that the allies divided Germany many years ago and to many younger Germans, East Germany was an other country.

So how did George solve the problem of unemployment? Not long ago the American public thought him a fool, now he can do no wrong. Sounds like his propaganda department is in overdrive, cant you tell that an election is comin up.

The only wise statement that I have ever heard coming from an Italian was " Politicians are like nappies (diapers), they should be changed regularly, both for the same reason"

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Edited: Mon May 24, 2004 at 9:07 AM by Karl Hofmann

TRB on Mon May 24, 2004 10:02 AM User is offlineView users profile

Quote
Originally posted by: Karl Hofmann
OK Tim, I'll bite

You guys seem absolutely amazed that the thought that there is a bit of dodgy dealing in the UN, but you also forget to look too closely at your own government, are you sure that they are squeeky clean? Who put Saddam in power, who funded him, who sold him his materials? (The EU countries did well out of that as well) It would seem that the US have made a pretty penny from this, but to divert attention away from your own government the spotlight is drawn on to the UN. well guess what, the UN, EU, US, China, Russia and many other countries are all making a good income from this area.

I have never said we are perfect. I have said that I do not trust the UN! Things are coming to light that would suggest that not trusting the UN may not be a bad idea. Lot's of people think the UN is a clean and honest organization. Seems to be a lot of corruption going on within the UN these days! How can you have a individual making policy when their pocket is being illegally funded?

Karl I don't trust the UN that's all I'm saying.

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Anonymous on Mon May 24, 2004 10:03 AM User is offline

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Karl Hofmann on Mon May 24, 2004 3:39 PM User is offlineView users profile

Good grief Tim,

Even I dont trust the UN, but then again neither do I trust the US government, British government, EU parliament, Russians, Chinese or any other govenment or organisation, there is always someone on the take! but I do think that despite my prejudices the UN and a multinational intervention/ stabilisation force would be the best way to go otherwise the US could well find themselves in the same situation as the British did in NI.

The saving of innocent iraqis froma brutal regime was simply an after thought that our governments came up with when we didn't find any disalowed weapons (I really hate the term Weapons of mass destruction) and shows gross neglegence in the planning of what we would do once Saddam was defeated.

Still haven't seen any laundered cash come my way though

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TRB on Mon May 24, 2004 3:54 PM User is offlineView users profile

Hell Karl the way you stick up for the UN I figured you were right behind Kofi on the pay schedule. If I don't think something is right I say so! I would rather state my point take the heat than choose the lesser evil. Each country has their agenda but the UN is supposed to protect everyone big or small. Being on someone's payroll and making decisions based on kickbacks is not what the UN is supposed to be!

I don't trust the UN so I personally see no use for them. If they clean up their act. Stand by the laws they past and stop taking bribe money then I rethink my support for them.

I understand others have a different view and that's fine also!

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Karl Hofmann on Mon May 24, 2004 5:32 PM User is offlineView users profile

Tim,

Our ultimate goal is the same, the way we go about achieving this goal is different. at the moment the US has a large number of combat troops in the middle east making the countries in that region very nervous. What you really need there are troops trained in peace keeping. The UN for all of its faults can draw on troops from other countries. The tighter your troops try to clamp down on the trouble makers, the more will join them.

How would Iraq be better under a US lead security force than under the UN?

The issue of Kofis alleged dodgy deals are really not a big issue here, indeed, I am yet to see a news item about this, so I would regard this as a smoke screen to take the heat off George. LOL Tonys spin doctors have been trying to change the subject for ages.

......Still no cash from Kofi, guess I'll have to go to work tomorrow



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poav on Mon May 24, 2004 7:37 PM User is offline

Karl--

peace keepers a big waste of time and effort. the trouble makers don't want peace. the keepers could not change the mindset of someone willing to blow their own people up on a suicide mission
to please Alla. this is much deeper seated.

schools are opening, water is flowing, lights are on, shops are selling, women are speaking openly,
kids are playing, people are smiling....all of this a curse brought on by the "infidels". very little of the
progress made is publicized in the US which i think is shameful and, if you expect to hear any bad stuff about kofi from the bbc, forget it..they and the new york times are two peas in a pod. thank God for fox news..i hope you have a few reliable/unslanted sources of news over there.

you mentioned how the countries over there are nervous about our presence. well ask those
new yorkers and all America who watched two large buildings collapse what nervousness is all about.

we will get there, it just take patience.

p

Karl Hofmann on Tue May 25, 2004 2:42 AM User is offlineView users profile

Peace keepers work pretty well in Bosnia and Croatia, I know, I used to go there every fortnight. I see no reason why they won't work in Iraq.

I am sure that our troops are doing good work for the majority, I have seen the work that has been done in croatia by the Royal Engineers.

I Think that we get Fox News, I'll have a look and see if Kofi is on there with his washing machine, but I got the impression that Fox News was a "Junk News" channel. Our media are a rebellious lot, and I'm sure that if there was a real news story there, especially one that would P##s off Tony (He wants the UN in there) then they would surely go with it. After the fake photos of troops mistreating prisoners, they really need a real story.

The twin towers truly was an awfull business, totaly unforgiveable, exept by the families and those close to those involved, but do you really feel that further destabilising the Middle East would help, especially when there is not one shread of evidence that Iraq was involved. How many people are killed each year by the Tobacco industry, the motor industry (defective cars not recalled) or road traffic accidents? more I suspect than the 5000 in the twin towers, and what has been done to correct this?

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NickD on Tue May 25, 2004 7:26 AM User is offline

There are over 40,000 people killed in the USA each year on the roads and over 1 million injuries each year and its positively criminal the way our claim system works, lots of expert witnesses, attorneys, and judges getting super rich off of accident victims not to mention that they get lots of pocket change since about 50% of all marriages end up in a divorce. It's a racket.

When two teenage girls living four houses from me were killed, our local paper put in a small article on page five, but when a pilot landed at the local airport forgetting to lower his landing gear with no injuries, the front page was plastered with zero news on this event.

Fox news sucks, should be more of Fox speculation with all the former whatevers they have that speculate on the current events. I see way up on the digital cable list, we have a British version of CNN news with all foreign speaking newscasters, LOL, very strong British accent. But more of a satire than a news program. The other news channels are more brainwashing than news.

One can't help but observe with the present administration, the USA is making lots of new enemies, I am equally observing that the drivers of these large SUV's with the high price of gasoline, just don't care and try to run you off the road even if you are slightly exceeding the speed limit. The larger the SUV, the worse and more discourteous are the drivers. If our politicians are this way, no wonder why we are making enemies.

The main focus on the presdential election ads and the news is pasting the blame with really no sensible solutions, its all about greed and power. If what Bush and Kerry say about each other is true, they should both be locked up in jail kind of thing.

The G.I. is still at the bottom of the list and the government contractors are making a fortune in this war, no different than any other war in the last hundred years. One good thing about American soldiers being in Iraq is that they would go to the stockade if they even swiped a candy bar. With other UN soldiers in there, they would get rich from the spoils of war. The USA is a nation with a great double standard, much better to be in Washington during a war than on the front lines. But they still claim to support our troops. Wonder how some of these heros will fair out in some filthy VA hospital a couple of years from now.

Glad some of you think the current adminstration is great, please let me know what brand of crack you are smoking so I can feel the same way. And don't say I am for Kerry, he also sucks.

Karl Hofmann on Wed May 26, 2004 2:39 AM User is offlineView users profile

LOL Nick,

It took an American to say that, and I would say that you're right on the money there

Satire? surely not!



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NickD on Wed May 26, 2004 6:48 AM User is offline

Ha, I wondered when I was young, how would I feel when I got old and have kids running the government, not very good, especially when these kids are spoiled brats.

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