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BelVeiro International on Tue August 10, 2004 7:06 PM User is offline

I am currently conducting market research for an exciting new product that my company is planning to introduce to the US market, Arizona specifically, next year. The product uses internationally award winning technology to reduce the temperature in the passenger compartment of a vehicle (by as much as 23 degrees) after it has been sitting out in the hot sun. For more information on the product please feel free to email me at belveiro@hotmail.com

I have 3 questions:

#1. If this product can do what it claimed to be able to do, how many of you might be interested in having one in your vehicle?

#2. I am looking at various distribution methods for this product. Does anyone know anyone in the automotive industry in Arizona that might be interested in distributing this product?

#3. What doubts, if any, do you have about this product?

I truly appreciate any help and/or advice you can give me.

Thanks!

SMB
BelVeiro International

Walt on Tue August 10, 2004 8:31 PM User is offline

We regret to inform you that the product is already on the market. Most Americans have at least one in the car, air conditioned or not, regardless of the region of the Country they reside in. It is doubtful that introduction of another such device would fare well, except as a curiosity; and then the price would have to be in the two dollar range. Best of luck with your venture.

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marvin-miller on Tue August 10, 2004 9:35 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: Walt
We regret to inform you that the product is already on the market. Most Americans have at least one in the car, air conditioned or not, regardless of the region of the Country they reside in. It is doubtful that introduction of another such device would fare well, except as a curiosity; and then the price would have to be in the two dollar range. Best of luck with your venture.

I'll bite - what is it?


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Karl Hofmann on Wed August 11, 2004 2:46 AM User is offlineView users profile

LOL wind down windows

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marvin-miller on Wed August 11, 2004 2:59 AM User is offline

dOh!

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TRB on Wed August 11, 2004 11:18 AM User is offlineView users profile

If an a/c system was working correctly how would you lower the temperature another 23 degrees? No matter what magic product you are pushing the evaporator core and moisture will freeze at 32 degrees!

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iceman2555 on Wed August 11, 2004 6:51 PM User is offlineView users profile

If the evap freezes at 32...why is it we keep hearing of vehicles that have sub 32 degree vents ?? Heard of a Toy that had a 26 degree vent.....my mind is confused....must be all the paint thinner....ahhh...another flush material.....see how fantastic things work out. Seeking the truth about vent temps and discovered a new flush......can ya beat that, TRB.
Have a great one.

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Chick on Wed August 11, 2004 7:09 PM User is offlineView users profile

Hell, If I can't get my vent temps below 40 degrees, I just turn that little nut on the back of the thermometer, and I have 29 degrees...Feel cooler already.... No need to adjust the system, just the thermometer ......

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iceman2555 on Wed August 11, 2004 7:20 PM User is offlineView users profile

Yes, remember that 'fix' from years gone by.....remember the customer that had their own thermo in the vent.....and felt that sub 30's were possible.....best tool for repairing that vehcile was an adjustable wrench and about a 1/4 turn to the left.......ahhh..yes.....remember those days so well.....think it is call 'regression'........but then TRB calls it 'paint sniffin'.....have a great one

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TRB on Wed August 11, 2004 8:06 PM User is offlineView users profile

We know your still sniffing the paint as you still have not said if the paint booth had a big 4S on the side or not. Maybe we can get a stencil of a big CW!!!!!

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Walt on Thu August 12, 2004 12:47 PM User is offline

Karl was right. The original post was for a device that would (quickly, I presume) lower the temperature of a car 23 degrees after it had been sitting in the hot sun. Open all the doors and use a newspaper to fan ambient air through the car. We all know what a solar oven a car is, temps reaching 120 with ambients of 80 or so.

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bohica2xo on Thu August 12, 2004 1:26 PM User is offline

*cue Groucho Marx accent*

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NickD on Fri August 13, 2004 7:52 AM User is offline

One trick I used over 40 years ago when I was down south was to leave for work early, there was one shade tree in the parking lot and the idea was to get there first and park under that.

Another trick that was only available to the CEO of one company I worked for was to park your car in the air conditioned shipping dock in the plant, but what the heck, when he was gone, I would borrow his space.

So you got my gears spinning, how would you walk out to a red hot asphalt parking lot during lunch hour and get into a cool vehicle? Some plants today are more relaxed, but back then, it was strictly a three piece suit, never seemed practical and why do we have to wear a leash around our necks? Least back then you could open a car door without getting a puddle of rain on the front seat and in some sections of the country, it does rain.

My old motorhome never got that hot, but had that ugly aluminum paint on the top, but it seems we like to torture ourselves to be fashionable.

MrBillPro on Fri August 13, 2004 10:22 AM User is offlineView users profile

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So you got my gears spinning, how would you walk out to a red hot asphalt parking lot during lunch hour and get into a cool vehicle? \



Sprinkler System?

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NickD on Fri August 13, 2004 11:05 AM User is offline

They already sell these things you unfold and put inside your windshield that reflects some of the heat, but not worth a darn if the sun is pointing at your rear window, so you need one there too. Also some on the side windows if the sun tends to rotate during the day, maybe a large umbrella, or if you live near a body of water, park it in the lake.

If you are already late for work due to traffic or road construction, has to be something easy you don't have to spend hours playing around with.

Course I am beginning to wonder about global warming, took my gang down to Great America last Wednesday after fixing up my AC in my car. The weather guy said party cloudy and 68*F so I said bring a light jacket along. The actual temperature was a hot 59*F with rain with an ice cold wind. After 4 hours, we gave up, socks and clothes were soaking wet and we were freezing. In August! The weather guy said this was the coldest day recorded in history, so let's hear some more about global warming. Glad my car heater worked.

marvin-miller on Fri August 13, 2004 11:28 AM User is offline

I never thought of that. It could be a smaller version of a car cover - something that would go over just the top half of the car? That would probably keep the heat out quite well.

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Karl Hofmann on Fri August 13, 2004 12:56 PM User is offlineView users profile

Sorry Marvin, Land Rover has that one years ago with the Safari roof, a second skin that sits over the main roof and allows an airflow in between. Works very well too!

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marvin-miller on Fri August 13, 2004 1:44 PM User is offline

Well, there goes my multi-million dollar idea

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NickD on Fri August 13, 2004 7:35 PM User is offline

Yeah, but the Land Rover is a practical vehicle, the rest are just made to look good in the show room, practically is not even considered.

Karl Hofmann on Sat August 14, 2004 5:10 AM User is offlineView users profile

Sadly Nick,
These days most Land Rover products are nothing more than road garbage. The Freelander is a badly designed and unreliable imitation of the RAV4, Discovery suffers from gearbox and electrical problems and the series 2 Range Rover is a mechanical and electrical liabillity, even the Defender has recently gone to the electronically controlled Td5 engine. The most rugged and reliable were the "Series" Landrovers with leaf springs and the easily repaired 2 1/4 petrol engine.

Recently on TV, Clarkson tried the current batch of overpriced 4X4s. Landbruisers, BMW X5 and the like, the best off road turned out to be the farmers Series 2 that pulled them all out of the mud

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HerkyJim on Sat August 14, 2004 3:23 PM User is offline

Some years ago I read a book recounting the experiences of a group who were going to cross the "Darien Gap" in Eastern Panama between Panama and Colombia. No PanAmerican Highway there. Just virgin tropical rainforest and hills. I beleieve they were sponsored by the Land Rover company and were using the newest version. As you might expect, they had a Hell of a trip, and the only vehicle to make it was a "preowned" locally procured version of the old reliable Land Rover. New ones broke down. It was a good book and interesting story.

Karl Hofmann on Sat August 14, 2004 4:18 PM User is offlineView users profile

The original Series 1 was designed after the war to be both an agricultural tractor with PTO points front and rear that the farmer could drive in to town for market. There was a shortage of steel but a plentifull supply or the aluminium alloy used in the production of aircraft, known as Birmabrite, hense the aluminium panels, sadly partway through the production of the S3 Landrover decided to move to a cheaper aluminium and the rot started to set in. The nice thing about the series landies is that all parts are still plentifull and a total basket case can easily be rebuilt, but more specialised versions like the Forward control 101 have to have some of their parts remanufactured to order

I wouldn't mind a spin in a Bowler Wildcat though

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Edited: Sat August 14, 2004 at 4:35 PM by Karl Hofmann

BelVeiro International on Sun August 15, 2004 5:56 AM User is offline

I'd like to thank everyone for their responses to my original posting. Some were constructive, some were amusing, while others where just plain simple.

I was purposefully vague about the product because I did not want to be seen as blatantly selling the product on this message board. More importantly, I do not want to be banned from this site. After reading through the various forums, I truly feel that I can get some valuable feedback.

This being the case, please go to www.intvent.com for a more in depth and detailed look at the product. After looking at the information, please feel free to email me at belveiro@hotmail.com with any further questions or comments you may have and I will respond accordingly.

Thanks again.

Karl Hofmann on Sun August 15, 2004 7:47 AM User is offlineView users profile

Ah Ha! The Audi A8 has a similar idea, I understand that the Webasto engine heater system has a similar setting. I think that it is a good idea, I understand that it wouldn't allow your battery to go flat, but a solar trickle charger would be a good option

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Walt on Sun August 15, 2004 1:03 PM User is offline

OK, I'll admit that it is not the scam that it appeared to be. It has merit. But solar powered ventilation devices are already on the market that clamp between the top of the window and the window frame. One or two of these will keep the air moving, and allow the heat to escape. Alternatively, simple sheet metal or vinyl vent covers, such as I have on one pickup, allow the window to be open an inch or so, helping to prevent buildup. Window covers, such as were earlier described, help prevent solar gain. Adjustible mini-blinds for the rear window will reduce solar gain, and prevent high beam headlights from being such a problem, while still allowing full vision at night.
I want a ski-rack type device that can carry/deploy a car cover. This would not only help interior temps and reduce UV damage to the interior, but also help reduce vehicle burglary/theft.

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