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Tax Dollars to Africa?

meaux on Sun July 17, 2005 12:28 PM User is offlineView users profile

Back up the truck...I thought Africa was a "continent" made up of a slew of countrys run by corrupt dictators. Wonder which dictator will get the most dollars?

I think we've been pouring money into that rathole for years, right, and still it's a mess? Wonder why? I hope it's just "feelgood talk" by Bush n' Blair...if not, we should know to who and where the money goes. Hell, we demand to know everything else, like "when is the war going to end, who is next, whats Brad and Angelina up too, will Steve marry Bobby, and when will I be able to marry my dog", etc., etc., etc.



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bohica2xo on Sun July 17, 2005 8:30 PM User is offline

Meaux:

Aid money to sub-saharan africa is nothing new. They may boost it 10% and talk about it more, but it will still be a drop in the bucket when you look at the whole Us aid picture.

We spend as much in Israel as we do on the entire sub-continient. We should close the taps to all of it. Last time I looked we spent over 10k per isralei citizen in aid - more than half their per capita GDP.

You are very right, the hollywood bunch will make a stink about lots of things, but will not be interested in exactly where this money goes....


We have spent over 40 years (that I have watched with my own eyes) trying to "fix" Africa. Millions of man-hours. Tonnes of crop seed. The Peace Corps has dug wells, built hospitals and schools, taught farming and sanitation. 40 years later - they are still ignorant, starving, and killing each other with edged weapons. When do we quit trying?

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"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
~ Mahatma Gandhi, Gandhi, An Autobiography, M. K. Gandhi, page 446.

meaux on Mon July 18, 2005 11:57 AM User is offlineView users profile

Heck, they don't need MONEY, they need LUGGAGE!!! :-) Pack up your crap and move to where you can eat!!! :-)

They need to get rid of the Mugabes and that scum, create the rule of law, inject capitalism, property rights, and birth control!!!

Keeping them alive with a one dollar, only creates the need for ten dollars..........

Hey Nick, I'm sure Hitlary has thought about giving away Hydrogen cars to win an election...I guess if we really want to piss-off the Middle East, we could stop buying oil...then what would they sell? Sand? Heck,we're doing them a favor!!!



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UK Tech on Mon July 18, 2005 12:09 PM User is offline

There was a guy here moaning about the Aids problem in africa and how it was everyone else's fault. It was then pointed out to him that the price of drugs were slashed, but most of the african governments still added sales tax before selling them on. South Africa was adding 37%. So they get our corporations to slash the prices, then make some extra cash on the back of it. It was also pointed out that no drugs would be needed, and the problem fixed reasonably quickly, of they were less promiscuous and kept their zippers done up.

bohica2xo on Mon July 18, 2005 1:20 PM User is offline

Meaux:

Since you bring the hydrogen car up - can you tell me where the hydrogen will come from? Another question the hollywood bunch won't ask.....


UK Tech:

Big Pharma (GSK Pfizer etal.) has been shipping tonnes of AIDS drugs there for several years. In addition to all of the more general pharmaceuticals they ship there free of charge. Read the GSK annual report, they apologize for throwing so much of the shareholders profit at Africa, but note the "not doing the right thing" would be bad publicity. The media would paint them as greedy. Some of the drug lots shipped to Africa turn up for sale on other continents - within weeks!

Then there is the education problem. The savages won't use protection, and they surely won't keep their zippers up as you have suggested. The worst part though is many of them still believe that having sex with an infection-free person will cure AIDS.



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"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
~ Mahatma Gandhi, Gandhi, An Autobiography, M. K. Gandhi, page 446.

bohica2xo on Mon July 18, 2005 2:40 PM User is offline

Nick:

It still comes back to fossil fuel. The hydrogen car is as big a hoax as the electric car was. The hollywood shrills raved about "zero pollution" - except for where we burned coal to make the electricity to charge an electric car 600 miles away. An electric car that was charged through an inductive connection.... That inductive connector was so ineffecient it needed a water cooling loop. They started fires whlie charging.

The important data is hard to pin down. "Well to Wheel" - and the hydrogen crowd does not like to talk about it. They like to speak of an unfulfilled dream of solar powered electrolysis of water. If you have a million cubic feet of hydrogen, how much water could you crack with it? Would it be self-sustaining? I doubt it. Even if you get the fuel cell for free.

By the way, who owns all of the big PV cell manufacturing? Ever notice the price of PV's always outruns the 20 year payback line? After decades of R&D, improved manufacturing, etc. - you can't break even on PV within the rated lifetime of the product. I wonder why?

You are a brillant guy, Nick. Look around for the W to W data, and you may be surprised.


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"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
~ Mahatma Gandhi, Gandhi, An Autobiography, M. K. Gandhi, page 446.

meaux on Mon July 18, 2005 4:37 PM User is offlineView users profile

Nick says, "A step in the right direction would be to destroy all the law schools in this country and form engineering schools instead."

AMEN.

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Bigchris on Mon July 18, 2005 10:32 PM User is offline

Nick, you've got my vote!!!
Come on down, this would be a fun time to propose a hydrogen project to the local universities!

Karl Hofmann on Tue July 19, 2005 3:55 AM User is offlineView users profile

Perhaps I would feel different if I had AIDS but as far as I know AIDS is still a terminal desease, so I'm afraid that I cant understand the desire to drag out the agony with expensive but useless drugs.

When under colonial rule, Africa was a wealthy and prosperous part of the world but since they rebelled and killed and rejected the pink people, they are in poverty and sinking fast but still want our help, this leads me to only one conclusion.

I would have no problem in helping them if I were reasonably sure that I would not just be lining some dictators Swiss bank account.

I suggested to my bank manager that the time was near when the great and the good of the showbiz industry would run a global concert to get the banks to write off the overdrafts and loans to all self employed tradesmen He wasn't too sure that would happen before satan was seen ice skating to work

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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!

Edited: Tue July 19, 2005 at 3:58 AM by Karl Hofmann

meaux on Tue July 19, 2005 10:34 AM User is offlineView users profile

Bohica says, "Then there is the education problem. The savages won't use protection, and they surely won't keep their zippers up as you have suggested. The worst part though is many of them still believe that having sex with an infection-free person will cure AIDS."

With the wonders of the internet, I've talked to a few black folks from over there and there are some that do believe having sex with an "infection free" person wwill cure them. What makes this more horrible is that "infection free" person includes very young girls and even babies...sad state of affairs over there...


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