What could be done to get A/C stopleak banned and took off the market.
There's a lot of DIYers nowadays putting this crap into their systems and before long,(if not already),
half the vehicles out there will be contaminated.
Something needs to be done, and soon as possible.
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Just another brick in the wall
Had a little mule I fed him castor oil and every time he jumped the fence he fertilized the soil
Like everything else brickmason. Hire a lawyer, and make sure you have Millions of Dollars.....The makers allready have Lawyers, and they have very DEEP pockets.
Besides, with people using all the different alternative refridgerants, like Nick said, alot will be contaminated anyway...because of the R12 scam...
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Lazy bum who lives off his wife.
01 BMW 530i Sport, 92 Porsche 968, 85 F150, 72 911, 08 GM SUV, 01' Ford Lightnin'
Edited: Mon September 12, 2005 at 7:26 AM by meaux
A guy that ruins his AC system with all these additives can always tell his mom for all the good the government will do. We want less government, right? The FTC is history for protecting the consumer, the FCC also lost any power it had and advise you take your issue up with that company through normal legal channels, foreign countries are buying our media and brainwashing us, Fox wouldn't even be around if the old FCC was still intact and neither would Sony. The EPA loves it when you wreck your vehicle so you get that old polluting piece of crap off the road, so don't look to them. OE and aftermarket suppliers are only interested in what you are doing during the warranty period, who cares after that. The FDA? How much money do you want to spend to get approval?
But do we really need all these government agencies to protect us? Ha, was working on the radio on a Ford yesterday, manual says to remove the negative battery cable first, but couldn't remove the radio because the gear shift lever was in the way, and couldn't take it out of park because the negative battery was disconnected, ignition has to be on with the brake pedal depressed before it can be released. And when it's out of park, can't turn the ignition switch off so have to listen to that beeping sound that can drive a guy nuts. These are the solutions we get when someone wins a law suit stating that it's the manufacturers fault for their stupid driving habits.
Course, if you put sealant in your AC system, it was going bad anyway and that is the reason why you have a problem, not the sealant.
Not sure what Tim can do, will be interesting to find out.
Tim
When you get done saving the world might want to change your banner. My spellins bad but tat taint rite.
I think Nick has most of the answers but there is also the fact that those cans of snot generate millions in repair revenue for dealers and independent service shops, so where is the incentive to get them off the market?
I see a quote fairly often on the net that about sums it up.
Stupid should hurt. (or in this case cost you big)
There you go picking on me first thing in the morning. Heck BigChris you know computers, why do you fix it for me or should I just wait for the feds to do it!
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Notice the one I posted, it is fixed.
Send me the jpg file and I'll upload it.
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Right click on it and choose save picture as.
It's all fuzzy, I would catch H*ll if I had a fuzzy banner running around here.
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Ok try that.
Sometimes i get carried away compressing files. Hazard of being on dial up.
How's this, can I get back to real stuff now??
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No punctuation, do your assignment over.
And what happened to the funky broadway BT font????
Edited: Mon September 12, 2005 at 1:01 PM by clueless
Mine's fuzzy, you have failed us for many years. Your generation created a huge debt which is just being passed on to future generations. Social security was created during your watch. All I will ever see out of it is my money going to you older guys! Your liberal pals won't let us take back control of our cash as it would mean another failure on their part.
I see the Mayor of New Orleans now says the buses were not used because there were no drivers. Why is it so hard for a liberal to admit fault and be accountable for their actions. I'm sure I will get a reply as to why someone else did this or that but lets get this question answered first before moving on to the next!
See I fix the banner for you BigChris and not even a thank you.
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Well, I guess as far as getting stop leak took off the market, may as well not expect it to happen.
Probably be around from now on, because in this world it's not who you are, it's who you know and how much money you have.
As I've done my whole life, just trying to help people.
Only service my own vehicles A/C and trusting family members, as I do not want my gauges and equipment anywhere near that crap.
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Just another brick in the wall
Had a little mule I fed him castor oil and every time he jumped the fence he fertilized the soil
Thing is sealer does not fall under any category which the EPA or any other body I know of can use to enforce the removal. This stuff has made people a lot of money and the marketers will never let it go if they have their way. Heck I know a few people that manufacture this stuff and we have debated its use many times. All of them claim its the other product that causes the issues.
Heck there was one auto a/c trade magazine which covered sealers. In my opinion the article pretty much gave these products a thumbs up.
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Tim,
What do you mean by the other product causing an issue. R134a ?
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Just another brick in the wall
Had a little mule I fed him castor oil and every time he jumped the fence he fertilized the soil
No, the types of sealers. One expands the o-rings and is said to be less harmful. One reacts to moisture which is the one I believe has caused the most problems. But like I said both claim the other is the bad one. I will never use these products and protect our equipment so hopefully we are covered!
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Tim,
Check your E-mail.
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Just another brick in the wall
Had a little mule I fed him castor oil and every time he jumped the fence he fertilized the soil
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