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Chick on Mon April 10, 2006 5:11 PM User is offlineView users profile

Ok, this one I have to comment on..The news is on now, and they are talking about the Immigeant rights rallies going on thru-out the country today. First, why aren't they at work, secondly, if they are illigal immigrents, they are NOT protected, nor should they benefit by US law, they are illigal???? Law breakers, criminals..What does that make citizens of this country? What A-holes issued permits for Illigal aliens to demonstrate on our streets? They are illigal..anyone hear this??? NOT legal citizens or residents. They are law breakers who should be punished as an american citizen would be punished. This is a mockery and the news is actually playing it up. Why not all child molesters or murderers, burglers etc be allowed to demonstate their right to break the laws of this country.. If you can't see a difference of "legal" and "illegal", something is really wrong here..They want rights, become citizens. If they live in poverty in their countries, do something about it there.. Our citizens are affords rights under the constitution, not people who slither into this country looking for a better life, make a better life in their country or come here legally and then become citizens..What a shame this is..Round them all up and treat them like the criminals they are. One set of laws for american citizens, and another for illigal aliens..???? Are you serious???

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meaux on Mon April 10, 2006 5:24 PM User is offlineView users profile

I never thought I'd see the day...Disgusting...It's funny, now they only show the ones with American flags...

I guess we can kiss this country good-bye...There ain't no way this PC Government is going to control the borders.

Adios America!





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Russell on Mon April 10, 2006 5:26 PM User is offlineView users profile

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I guess we can kiss this country good-bye...


It wasn't yours in the first place!



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TRB on Mon April 10, 2006 5:37 PM User is offlineView users profile

Chick this is not about illegals coming here to work. Its about Mexico taking over the US.

I had to run across town and these idiots are just parking cars in the middle of the streets. Don't even get me started on the flag issue. Two weeks ago you hardly noticed any American flags. They noticed how bad that made them look so all week on radio and TV it was bring your American flag. It just another lie by these illegals don't belive for a minute they want to defend America. They do not want to be American citizens, they want America to be Mexico!

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Russell on Mon April 10, 2006 5:50 PM User is offlineView users profile

Maybe you should relocate to a place that more closely suits your political outlook. I hear the're great people up in North Dakota!......................and white.

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Chick on Mon April 10, 2006 5:58 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Maybe you should relocate to a place that more closely suits your political outlook. I hear the're great people up in North Dakota!......................and white.

Now if everyone did that, the lower states would become another country (mexico)and we would eventually become canadians... I think people living "legally" in their country should live "anywhere" they want. The people who are not "leagal" citizens or "legal" residents have no say whatsoever where they are to live, other than the country where they are legal..

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TRB on Mon April 10, 2006 5:59 PM User is offlineView users profile

Typical comment from you the biggest racist of this forum. When you can't deal with the truth you will always pull the race card. Really don't you think its time you grow up and quit crying wolf just like fellow liberal did the other day? Why don't you move back to the land where you came from! You seem to hate it here in America where we have laws which need to be followed!

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meaux on Mon April 10, 2006 6:01 PM User is offlineView users profile

Russell says, "It wasn't yours in the first place!"

Have a nice day...


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Russell on Mon April 10, 2006 6:17 PM User is offlineView users profile

No, I like it here. Wouldn't have it any other way. I have no problem with the truth, and definatly am not a racist.
Whenever there is an un-just law, it will be ignored by the masses. Just look at prohibition.


We have built factories worldwide that support american business, and feed american wants and needs. All of these companies have moved overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and materials, while providing little if any benefits to the workers. These companies are not responsible citizens of the countries they are in. They pay more in corrupt kick backs than taxes. We have not built schools and hospitals. We have not helped provide adequate social services. We have pillaged and plundered. But that's the way we do business isn't it?.

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TRB on Mon April 10, 2006 6:25 PM User is offlineView users profile

Russell what you fail to understand is not one of us has said legal immigrants should go home. Only those which broke the law coming to the United States of America.

Really Russell I'm just wasting my time with you. Unlike you have have things which need to get finished.

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Russell on Mon April 10, 2006 7:05 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: TRBOnly those which broke the law coming to the United States of America.




But when do you want to start Tim?
Those that broke the law yesterday, or five years ago? Those that now have children that are citizens? Should they be expelled and their childrens rights revoked? These people did not come here to rob and steal.

Have you ever been to El Salvadore? Guatemala? Nicaragua? All of these countries once had quiet stable governments. And then came Ronald Reagan and the USA to the rescue.

I befriended a family from El Salvadore several years back. An entire family, running from a civil war funded by the CIA. They were all running from the war. Regardless of age, they were of military use. There was a 63 year old man and a 12 year old boy. Both were dodging the draft along with their cousins and uncles. They had been farmers and were content with their life until the family farm was burned by the Contras from Nicaragua. The men of military age were rounded up and "absorbed" by the army. My friends escaped illegally to the United States.





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TRB on Mon April 10, 2006 9:15 PM User is offlineView users profile

Russell the crusader, yet he wants every Jew set ablaze.


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Russell on Tue April 11, 2006 2:39 AM User is offlineView users profile

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment Tim, a joke................................Get over it!

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TRB on Tue April 11, 2006 11:30 AM User is offlineView users profile

Sure it was, you joke about killing an entire race? It was only satire when it showed the type of person you really are! There was no humor in your comment you know it and so do all the others which have read it.

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Karl Hofmann on Tue April 11, 2006 11:33 AM User is offlineView users profile

But Tim,

People here have advocated the elimination of every Muslim, so what is the difference?

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HECAT on Tue April 11, 2006 11:45 AM User is offline

I completely agree with Chick's original post. A lot of these protesters are ILLEGAL! Let's circle the crowd of demonstrators with INS buses and start checking green cards. Why don't we use this labor pool to build a real strong border fence both North and South.

My cousin, British born, works technical sales for an engineering firm in Indiana. Working toward his American Citizenship he must leave the US, obtain a new work permit and reenter the US. This is done with wife and children in tow every 6 months at his own expense. They own a house in Indiana and go through the nightmare of not knowing if they will be granted another permit to reenter every time.

The entire "Mexican immigration" issue has created pending legislation. Probably to eventually create a double standard with new laws for "Mexican immigration" and the original laws for all other "Alien immigration". THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!

WE NEED THE LABORERS!!! Come on people, we had an entire socioeconomic class of unskilled laborers that worked the fields, dug the ditches, mowed our lawns, and did all the other "laborer" tasks. They eventually found out they could secure a government check for more money by doing nothing at all and did so. This in time has allowed for us to turn a blind eye to immigration laws and open the door for the Mexican immigrant workers to back fill these unskilled laborer jobs. Welfare programs are already breaking our back, can we really afford to let this occur again over time? I believe we should be pushing for welfare reform to force the able bodied welfare recipients into work pool to fill these labor jobs before we allow amnesty to thousands of illegal immigrants and they start collecting their own government checks.

A truck driver delivering here yesterday had just returned from a vacation in Mexico. He said that at every business he entered things were very quiet and slow. He observed a very slow pace by all and questioned a local business owner as to why things were this way in Mexico when we Americans view the Mexican worker as a "fast paced hard worker". The Mexican business owner replied that it is this way here because all the Mexican "hard workers" are in the US. LMAO!!!



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TRB on Tue April 11, 2006 11:48 AM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Karl Hofmann
But Tim,



People here have advocated the elimination of every Muslim, so what is the difference?

Not me! I can only speak for myself! And the one's which have made those comments are doing so to protect our country from the poeple trying to kill us! Rememebr you have a certain number you have to achieve before your peace plan can work. Russell just stated he wanted all the Jews dead for no other reason then the are Jewish.

But you guys flip flop so much its not even funny! So who the hell knows what today's BS is going to be. Russell made it plain and clear he wanted every Jew set ablaze. He came into this forum singing the John Lennon tune of peace. But Russell really is not for peace. He is a hypocrite that pulls the race card anytime things don't go his way.



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meaux on Tue April 11, 2006 11:55 AM User is offlineView users profile

Just a thought, since the 9/11 hijackers had 8 or more drivers liscenses, what prevents Jose' from having 15 different names, collecting 15 different Welfare Checks? Hell, he could buy him and his famila and RV and travel from State to State picking up checks, or get in the same line everyday of the week! Crap, there's only 7 days in a week...It was Illegal Aliens that crashed Flight 93 into the ground...

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meaux on Tue April 11, 2006 11:58 AM User is offlineView users profile

Russell says, "Maybe you should relocate to a place that more closely suits your political outlook. I hear the're great people up in North Dakota!......................and white."

Dang!

Is TRB White! Wonder where "White" is?


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Karl Hofmann on Tue April 11, 2006 12:21 PM User is offlineView users profile

I believe it was recently painted, but true to form, the paint was cheap and will soon flake off

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Russell on Tue April 11, 2006 1:25 PM User is offlineView users profile

LMAO...................thanks Karl.

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HECAT on Tue April 11, 2006 2:18 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: meaux
Just a thought, since the 9/11 hijackers had 8 or more drivers liscenses, what prevents Jose' from having 15 different names, collecting 15 different Welfare Checks? Hell, he could buy him and his famila and RV and travel from State to State picking up checks, or get in the same line everyday of the week! Crap, there's only 7 days in a week...It was Illegal Aliens that crashed Flight 93 into the ground...


Shhhhhhh! Jose will hear you.......



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Chick on Tue April 11, 2006 4:16 PM User is offlineView users profile

Geez, for a minute there I thought I was the only one who thought that the "laws" were all the people, not one law for me, and a different one for my neighbor. It just doesn't make sense. Sure it's hard to become a US citizen. In fact I am the first to admit that citizens born here, haven't got a clue just how lucky they are. (Not all, but many) becoming a citizen is purposely hard, because you become entitled to "all" the rights granted a US citizen. So why are illegals allowed to stay and NOT go thru the process as many others before them had to go thru.,.And to think they even "VOTE" which is one of our greatest rights. Seems to undermine being a citizen I think..But hey, thats just me..

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Karl Hofmann on Tue April 11, 2006 4:49 PM User is offlineView users profile

Joking apart, I do feel that illegal immigrants are a major problem, and I do feel for you guys, we have similar problems here too. Illegals are untracable and are hard to track down in the event of them breaking the law.

A lot of our illegals come fron the balkans, Iran and Iraq. Some of them are here to work and to make a better life for themselves, some of them just want to get rich quick by whichever means they can.

Not too long ago, the EU expanded to encompass several ex commie blok countries, Poland was one of them, the agreement that we have with the EU and Poland is that as Poland is now an EU state, their people may move to the UK to work, but if they have no work, then they cannot claim unemployment benefit. Many Poles have come to our area to do manual work in factories and distribution centres, they work very hard and are highly regarded, they are pleased to earn the money on offer, which is usually minimum wage for these types of jobs. Most of the ones that I have spoken to intend to earn enough cash to buy a smallholding in Poland and then return home. They pay tax on their earnings, have a National Insurance number, contribute to our economy and also help Poland to get on to its feet, a win win situation since the British tax payer would be contributing to the reconstruction of Poland anyway through our EU contributions anyway. I wonder if a similar arrangement could be made between the US and Mexico, whilst toughening up your border, the extra tax revenue from legal immigrant workers would help to pay for it.

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Edited: Tue April 11, 2006 at 4:51 PM by Karl Hofmann

Chick on Tue April 11, 2006 5:17 PM User is offlineView users profile

Well Karl, I do agree with you on this statement. Enter legally and enjoy the benefits of your "host" nation. Work hard, minimum wage or not. They choose to go there, and they choose to work for the pay offered. My hat goes off to people like that, as I believe everyone should try to better themselves in a legal way. The illegals in your country are as bad as the illegals in mine. They are breaking the laws meant for us all, so they , in my eyes, have NO rights under our constitution. And many who come here to have children (Which are automatically citizens) should try their damndests to become citizens themselves, no matter how hard it is..It is NOT supposed to be easy. As I said before, many of do not realize what just being born here entitles us to. And it does not entitle illegal immigrants those rights. While they are here, they MUST follow the law just as a born here citizen must, or they have to pay the consequences. Plain and simple. This does remind me of a time when there was a Cuban holiday in my town, and the Mayor thought he was doing them a favor (votes of course) to fly the Cuban flag above ours. Well you want to talk about the shyt hitting the fan. In our country, NO flag flys above the American flag. veterans groups, the Police and Fire personnel all came out in force and the flag was lowered to where it belonged. Below ours..Thats the America I know. Thats the America I love. Feel free to come here, follow the laws, and "work hard to become a citizen" if you wish to stay..Otherwise get the hell out.. Just my opinion though..Not that of the illegal aliens that are here bitching about "our" laws....

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Edited: Tue April 11, 2006 at 7:44 PM by Chick

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