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White Industries 01090

rbinc on Fri August 18, 2006 7:29 PM User is offline

Country of Origin: United States

Any source for parts for this machine other than Snap-On? It seems White sold servicing to them.

Picked this up recently for contaminated 134 systems. It's a first generation "walk up and wait" unit. You just can't have enough machines these days to be legal, can you?

Need some minor parts and maybe a moisture filter. Was free and seems to work fine. But if I have to deal with Snap-On, forget it. It's history.

Thanks.

Chick on Fri August 18, 2006 7:55 PM User is offlineView users profile

Maybe you can contact this company for the parts you need
Hope this helps.
http://www.autoess.com/white_1234xl.htm

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rbinc on Fri August 18, 2006 8:15 PM User is offline

No, those are much newer White machines. Even the 1090XL is. I think White still services those directly. This is probably a 1993 or 1994 machine.

But I appreciate your help. Looking to use this as an "oil-seal" contamination recovery machine. Don't want to jeapordize my new machines any further. Might just use an old Kent-Moore machine for this purpose; convert the hoses and retire it from occasional HC/Contaminated/ R-12/R-134/ R-22/ Propane service because I get tired of explaining why I need to charge so much to recover other people's mistakes.

Regards and thanks again.


Chick on Fri August 18, 2006 8:27 PM User is offlineView users profile

I was thinking more on the line of contacting that company for "suggestions" on parts for the machine you have. Sometimes when they sell new machines, they stop listing the old ones and the parts they "may" have for them. Thats how I usually found parts for older machines in the past...

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rbinc on Fri August 18, 2006 9:13 PM User is offline

Worth a shot, Chick. I will call them Monday. Machine only has 36 hours on it and got a free tank of 100% 134 with it.

Thanks again.

NickD on Fri August 18, 2006 11:05 PM User is offline

Try:

http://www.whiteac.com/

They have some stuff with your model number in it.

Toddc72 on Sat August 19, 2006 2:50 AM User is offline

If you call the number on the site. It tak3es you to Snap-On tec repairs. Already had it happen when I was looking at a used one. Paused for a minute thinking I dialed wrong. When I asked them. They said NO. We handle Whites equipment service and parts. Great, so that means prices will be tripple what they would have been if White only did it.

Chick on Sat August 19, 2006 6:49 AM User is offlineView users profile

I know what you mean about snap-on.. Every Tuesday for us..And listen, I don't mind that the guy is putting his kids thru Collage..Nothing wrong with that. But why does it have to be Harvard and Yale..Send them to a good community collage and drop your prices a bit... Anyway,
rbinc if you find a "source" be sure to share it with us... Would be funny as hell if you did and it was MAC tools....

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NickD on Sat August 19, 2006 8:04 AM User is offline

I could never get excited about going to the bank and borrowing over $100K to buy a truck, get it painted white with red letters, load it up with a couple hundred K of inventory and stop weekly at a small shop to collect two dollars and telling the customer he has enough credit left to buy a 10 mm open end wrench.

I was on the other end of the stick supplying about a dozen catalog items for them, profit had to be low, and if for any reason, the customer didn't like the product, would find it back at our doorstep. My quality was impeccable so we got very few units back we had to eat, but other companies would get the entire shipment back. Considered this to be bread and butter business with them, production quantities were high and their check never bounced. By upping our purchasing, could make a lot more money on our direct sales.

Was back in the late 70's a rumor was floating around that the EPA would ban R-12 and recovery of refrigerant was going to become mandatory, was approached by several of our key accounts to develop a recovery machine. Ha, was only one guy with a thousand things to do, but did gather five competitive samples and looked at all of them. Only difference was the cabinet, the pump, gauges, hoses were all off the shelve items as I recall, but really questioned using standard automotive accumulators for the dryer that all were using. Dragging my feet was good on this project for my company, Reagan got in, and the entire project was canned. Our competitors trying to get the edge were stuck with warehouses full of inventory, several of them went bankrupt.

I haven't looked at recovery machines recently, but willing to bet not much as changed regarding the components used, probably still off the shelve items used in these things. Something to keep in mind when looking for common replacement parts.

Also gave me a hint on the politics of the EPA, if CFC's were such a hazard, over 95% of the open use of CFC's could have been stopped back then with our government dumping over 60% into the open air and another 30% used in hair spray cans. Ha, don't even think of touching a woman's hair back then, but if you did, would get finger cuts from that stiff lacquered bristles they considered to be fashionable.

The administration today doesn't really care about CFC's, we could specify in our trade agreement with China they quit making CFC's, but nothing was ever said about that, still millions of tons of the stuff getting into the atmosphere plus the same is true of many Latin American countries. And not an ounce of regulations on the people making AC equipment, if they leak, so what? Only folks left for the EPA to pick on is the tech and they really have a bug against Oz for his home made blends of HC's like Oz invented something new. Ha, you can't use HC's, but if you do, you damn well better recover them, what a joke this country has become!

Ha, I am a saint for recovering two ounces of HFC's while poor manufacturing of OE MVAC systems is pouring out tons of the stuff and DuPont is selling the same stuff for aerosol cans.

Nothing to get serious about, just one big joke, but do your part on recovering those last two ounces, should make a major difference, right?

Do you really need a clean filter for collecting contaminated R-134a?

rbinc on Sat August 19, 2006 12:52 PM User is offline

Thanks Nick,

White does sell direct for the "1090" but mine is the old "01090". It's a big rectangular sheet-metal housing with no microprocessors or keypad. Mainly need hose knobs(cotter pins suck) and a low side gauge. As for the filter, I meant 134 contaminated with leak sealers, but still want to extract dry 134 to the tank for reuse. The toxic stew stuff is handled by a Kent-Moore for recovery only.

Ahh... Snap-On. As an eighteen year old wrench in the early eighties, they nearly ruined me. Naive kid walks onto the truck and is extended way too much credit. Easy to justify that I "needed" every bit of the 8 grand I went into debt for. Was quite the struggle to get that paid off and still eat. Nowadays, although I still have all that I bought from Snap-On, it doesn't matter that my boxes are mixed with every brand tool that exists. Buy what I need when I actually need it from whoever has it. Disappointed with Snap-On, Mac and Matco lately though. Every time I need something as common as a Cummins barring tool, I spend lunch chasing down all the tool trucks and they never have it. Finding that csk proshop, can usually get me whatever I need by the next morning and cheap.

EPA is a joke. We get our 609s, have 4 machines, follow the rules, look over our shoulders for the gestapo to bust us for "intent to vent" when we pull a service cap and the shrader dumps, while any yahoo can dump 2 pounds of garbage into the air in his backyard, fill it with two more pounds of garbage (making us buy another grand worth of tools to find out what was put in), etc..

Have a great weekend and thanks for the feedback.




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