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HECAT on Tue December 05, 2006 4:54 PM User is offline

Country of Origin: Mexico

Thought I would share...

This is supposedly a letter to the editor of an unknown paper from a little old lady.


Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country
protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of
illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect
its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and,
once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the
thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in
your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds
and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floor s; I've done
all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except
for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add
me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other
benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because
he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part)

If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who
will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and
I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um,
except for well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me! I live in your house, contributing only a
fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it
without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an
anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language
so you can communicate with me.








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Karl Hofmann on Tue December 05, 2006 7:13 PM User is offlineView users profile

Hmmm.... But is it really your house? or did you steal it?

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TRB on Tue December 05, 2006 7:57 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Karl Hofmann
Hmmm.... But is it really your house? or did you steal it?

My house has been in the family since it was built. So I don't think I stole it from anyone. Did you steal you house Karl? Is that the way you gain a residence in the UK?



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Karl Hofmann on Wed December 06, 2006 7:46 PM User is offlineView users profile

But Tim, is your house not built on someone elses land using someone elses timber and stone? Whats the difference between your forefathers who came from Europe and the Mexicans. Are the Mexicans not just stealing from the thieves?

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Karl Hofmann on Wed December 06, 2006 7:52 PM User is offlineView users profile

My old man always insisted that he came to the UK as a guest of the King. The King was so insistant that dad visited the UK and the Commonwealth that he sent thousands of soldiers to Europe to try to convince him to experiance some of the finest POW camps available.

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TRB on Wed December 06, 2006 8:56 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Karl Hofmann
But Tim, is your house not built on someone elses land using someone elses timber and stone? Whats the difference between your forefathers who came from Europe and the Mexicans. Are the Mexicans not just stealing from the thieves?

Give me a break dude. You are fishing so hard to make your point its not even funny. Big difference between building a society. Then moving into and trying to take what is already there. I don't think you would hear a word from many of us if the illegals wanted to come here and build a community. But all they want is to come here illegally and live off of others. It is not my goal in life to make everyone live in a standard they want while they do nothing to improve it them shelves.



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Karl Hofmann on Thu December 07, 2006 3:39 AM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: TRB
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Originally posted by: Karl Hofmann
But Tim, is your house not built on someone elses land using someone elses timber and stone? Whats the difference between your forefathers who came from Europe and the Mexicans. Are the Mexicans not just stealing from the thieves?



Give me a break dude. You are fishing so hard to make your point its not even funny. Big difference between building a society. Then moving into and trying to take what is already there. I don't think you would hear a word from many of us if the illegals wanted to come here and build a community. But all they want is to come here illegally and live off of others. It is not my goal in life to make everyone live in a standard they want while they do nothing to improve it them shelves.

Tim, your point is 100% valid but I was responding to comments that suggested that these folk were going to the US to make your beds and to clean up after you. I would however suggest that the European settlers also destroyed the society and culture of those who originally inhabited your country.



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TRB on Thu December 07, 2006 10:04 AM User is offlineView users profile

I hear the excuse they are coming here just to work all the time. But the fact remains that many have come here to live of the US as it is a better life then trying to make a living in Mexico. So instead of fighting for their country they come here and live off of the US residents. It is funny how you see the Mexican Americans which have come here legally fighting the illegal issue with the rest of us. But within the Mexican culture these Mexican Americans are now cast out as racists.

Almost every street corner in Phoenix has a illegal standing with their hand out or they have a brown bag with a bottle in it. I see them all the time so drunk they cannot even walk. They urinate and the sidewalks but hey they are just here to wash my dishes! Most in my opinion have come here because of the free money the US seems to think they have to give anyone that stands at the welfare office.

Then there is the claim they only do the jobs Americans will not. BS, they take the entry level jobs from our kids and anyone that has taken an economics class knows if you flood the market with cheap labor the only thing you get is more cheap labor. So keep allowing these illegals in and soon they will be crying to the human rights organizations that they are being treat as slaves do to the low wage available.

Americans will do any job needed! We are just smart enough to do it for a proper rate. So if that means an apple goes from .10 cents to .20 cents so be it. Those that complain can cut back on the things which are not required to live!

Of course this is just my opinion.

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Russell on Thu December 07, 2006 1:16 PM User is offlineView users profile

You're not going to get anywhere with these guys Karl. I have never seen HECAT make an initial post of his own thoughts. It has all been something someone else wrote that he thought was cute.

They refuse to admit that there were civilizations here BEFORE the europeans "discovered" the new world and expanded west. They believe that "God" gave them this land to take from whomever happened to live here at the time. It was not being exploited to its fullest and therefore the original occupants were not worthy of posessing such valuable lands. Thats all there is to it.

Tim won't admit that in the 1800's Arizona was 98% hispanic. Ot that these "native" residents were forced from their homes by the white settelers.

I watched "Cops" in Maricopa county a couple of weeks ago. In nine episodes I saw white crack heads and thieves, some were black. Not one single episode had a suspect of hispanic descent. I think they were all at work.

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TRB on Thu December 07, 2006 1:57 PM User is offlineView users profile

Problem with anything you type Russell. Is no one believes anything you say is the truth. I have watched many "COPS" shows including ones taped in Phoenix. There was a larger percentage of hispanics and blacks being cuffed. Heck might have even been you doing one of your drug deals!

You are just a nut to relate the colonization of the United States to a bunch of illegals running across the border and stealing anything they can get. They really need to put you back in the rubber room and up your meds.





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Karl Hofmann on Thu December 07, 2006 5:28 PM User is offlineView users profile

On the subject of illegal immigrants, I do agree with Tim but I just thought that it was my Christian duty to remind him of a few factors that had been convieniently forgotten such as someone already lived in the country now known as the US before the Europeans stole it and its wealth and then systematically wiped out the majority of its indiginous population.

Just sit back and join the latin quater guys..

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TRB on Thu December 07, 2006 7:58 PM User is offlineView users profile

Well I say if they want it back or if anyone else wants it back come take it back with your military. This illegal crap is just the thugs of Mexico coming to the US illegally waiting for a hand out. Russell is in that line also so he feels for his future welfare mates. Russell cries so much about how the US sucks but he sure the heck is not leaving anytime soon. You can look at every piece of dirt on this planet and it was someone else's spot before their current owner.

Like I said before, I may not agree with you Karl on many things. But at least with you we can have a discussion. Russell is just a racist that wants America and the Jewish people removed from the earth.

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HECAT on Fri December 08, 2006 2:22 PM User is offline

Well Russell,

Just for you, in my own words.

Thanks for jumping in again with your childish attacks that have nothing to do with the topic. Please understand, I do expect nothing less from you, and I do appreciate you joining in and as usual, providing such a valuable contribution.

Since you seem to have missed the point (maybe one too many dead brain cells), please allow me to explain; The story, not my words, of breaking into someone's house, seemed appropriate to share and was meant to offer some thought provoking insight into the fact that WE seem to have forgotten the definition of one simple little word...ILLEGAL !!!!!

But now it is all because the Europeans took land from the original inhabitants, and this somehow makes Illegal Mexican immigration justified as they are just coming to claim back land that was also taken from them. Is this relevant to todays immigration issue or is it just history, hundreds of years old.

Jeez, I must have missed out on the taking. I had to purchase my property from a guy that owned it before me and now I must pay for it with the money I earn. Man did I get screwed!

I used the word "WE" above to refer to the American people as a whole. You used the word "They" in your post as if to indicate you are not one of the members of our society. I have a request, please take the Clinton, Kennedy, Gore, and Kerry families with you when your ship returns. THANKS





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JJM on Fri December 08, 2006 8:52 PM User is offline

I find it kind of ironic that you, of all people, have the nerve to criticize HECAT for not having his own thoughts. Have you checked out his flushing equipment? What thoughts do you have that are worth any commercial value?

The only "accomplishment" you seem to have was suing someone for $850,000 for an accident (probably the result of your own stupidity too). Which is actually pretty pathetic by the way... that you or your work is only valued at $850,000 in an age of multi-million dollar settlements. Let's see, if the average US life expectancy is 77.9 years, so if you're 40 years old, that works out to $22,427.44 per year... hamburger flippers are worth more than that! If you're less than 40, well, that's pretty sad.

By the way, only in America - the country you hate - would someone like you be awarded $850,000.

And as for the Europeans coming over, the world so much better off now in terms of wealth, prosperity, technology, medicine... and so forth. Look at how long the Indians were here, what the hell did they accomplish all the time they were here? Compare that with the accomplishments of the "white man" in just over 200 years.

And I like you cute little swipe about whites you garnered from watching COPS. Please explain how your interpretation reconciles with the reality that while blacks make up only 13% of the US population according to the 2000 Census, they occupy 60-70% of the prison cells. Yeah, keep taking shots at whites if it makes you happy.

HECAT's post is dead right on... too bad you're too obtuse to gather anything from it.

Joe

MrBillPro on Sat December 09, 2006 10:11 AM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Russell


I watched "Cops" in Maricopa county a couple of weeks ago. In nine episodes I saw white crack heads and thieves, some were black. Not one single episode had a suspect of hispanic descent. I think they were all at work.


This dude is colorblind, and confused and hates America need I say more?

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MrBillPro on Sat December 09, 2006 10:28 AM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Russell
Not one single episode had a suspect of hispanic descent. I think they were all at work.


He is right about this statement, they were at work and here is a picture of them at work.





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meaux on Sat December 09, 2006 1:52 PM User is offlineView users profile

I think, in less than 15 yrs., Karl will be a "Convert" or lookin' for somewhere else to live, due to being expelled by Muslims, and Russell will still be wallowing in his own "Duck Sauce" complaining to Mexicans... in Spanyola of course...

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TRB on Sun December 10, 2006 7:27 PM User is offlineView users profile

Amazing Russell bases the illegal issues of Arizona on a TV show! This guy just gets sadder and sadder every time he opens his mouth.

Joe I would not put too much money down that Russell won any settlement. This guy makes more crap up then John Kerry!

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MrBillPro on Mon December 11, 2006 10:53 AM User is offlineView users profile

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This guy makes more crap up then John Kerry!

Dam that's hitting way below the belt.

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TRB on Mon December 11, 2006 11:24 AM User is offlineView users profile

Call it as I see it Mr.Bill.

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JJM on Mon December 11, 2006 2:25 PM User is offline

Tim... let's put it this way, if I won a settlement - essentially mooching off someone else - I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it. Last thing I want to do is spend my life in court room trying to br spiteful to someone else. Life is too short.

Point is, this guy attacks HECAT for not having an original thought when his flushing equipment is the product of some very original thought, which have been translated into a commercial product. But what should I expect, this guy doesn't have anything nice to say about any productive members of our society, so I guess I should take it where it's coming from.

Joe

HECAT on Mon December 11, 2006 2:35 PM User is offline

Thanks for all the support guys.




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TRB on Mon December 11, 2006 2:35 PM User is offlineView users profile

Just remember Joe, this is the same guy which thought it was fine to slide a few bucks to a employee in the back alley at one of the charitable organizations. Just so he could get some furniture he wanted. Something is wrong when you can't go through the front door.

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Edited: Mon December 11, 2006 at 2:44 PM by TRB

Karl Hofmann on Tue December 12, 2006 6:58 PM User is offlineView users profile

The reason the likes of Meaux will never beat his enemies is because he wont even try to understand them. By understanding how they think and the reasons for them doing certain things can atrocities be prevented or at least thwarted before they happen

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TRB on Tue December 12, 2006 8:21 PM User is offlineView users profile

When do they start understanding our principles and beliefs? This is a two way street pal.

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