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Prime exzample of poor BBC reporting.

TRB on Thu December 23, 2004 2:21 PM User is offlineView users profile

Now after reading the headline you would think the USA had been placing pressure to stop this report. Read the text and no such thing is documented or even stated! The statement is incorrect, so why does the BBC see fit to publish such a headline?

US 'blocking Arab freedom report'

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Edited: Thu December 23, 2004 at 3:22 PM by TRB

MikeH on Thu December 23, 2004 3:20 PM User is offline

This is just another example of what the BBC, a soliclist news agency, will say and do in an attempt to embarras the U.S.
The big problem is that very few of the Brits know they are being lied to as they can only get CNN besides the BBC.

NickD on Thu December 23, 2004 4:15 PM User is offline

The Brits can come here for accurate news, why do you think Karl comes here?

TRB on Thu December 23, 2004 4:38 PM User is offlineView users profile

By no means am I saying our news sources are any better. What gets me is the way the BBC bolster's the readers into a dislike for the USA with such a headline. There are no facts backing that headline yet I'm sure many that only read the headline said, see the USA is at it again.

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Karl Hofmann on Thu December 23, 2004 4:51 PM User is offlineView users profile

What's wrong with it?

The offending headline used "Quotation Marks", which you will be aware that means that the words in the quotation marks are a quotation, and not necessarily fact, just one mans statement. I'm afraid that I was a real duffer at English Grammar, but misuse of grammar can totally change what is really being said and by whom.

The headline says to me that someone has made a statement that alleges that the US has tried to suppress a report, the US has denied this, and the UN has stated that some governments have disagreed with the content. My conclusion is that the US may have reservations about the report, but the guy who is preparing it is preparing the ground for it being dumped because it is crap

Nice to read that you read the rest of the text and discovered a ballanced report, perhaps the headline helped you to read further in to what is a pretty dry subject. The BBC has reported a condensed version of what has been said and alleged without commenting, it is for the reader to decide. Not perfect but as ballanced as you will find.

Those looney lefties are your only freinds!

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TRB on Thu December 23, 2004 6:48 PM User is offlineView users profile

Usually when you "quote" someone you list the person being quoted! No where in that short piece is the headline ever quoted! Other suggested comments are made but nothing that represents the quoted comment! To me Karl it is just another news media using its power to enforce their thought process on others. Some will read it and say this does not represent the headline and others will not. Issue is the news media in general are not providing the news but trying to influence readers to represent their thought process, IE Dan Rather!

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meaux on Thu December 23, 2004 9:33 PM User is offlineView users profile

From none other than the Allzakaka website.......

US families to assist Falluja refugees

Thursday 23 December 2004, 21:41 Makka Time, 18:41 GMT

Families of US troops killed in the assault on Falluja are to travel to Jordan next week with $600,000 worth of humanitarian aid for refugees displaced by the attack.

Yep, those blood thirsty Americans are at it again.......:-)

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bohica2xo on Thu December 23, 2004 10:23 PM User is offline

Meaux:

Try reading the Gulf Times for a different viewpoint. I usually read it before the WSJ in the morning.

They tend to just report the facts (imagine that!) so it can be a bit dry compared to american news. Between 3 or four sources, a grain of truth exists someplace in the middle....



As for the tea-bagger press bashing the US - tell me when to be surprised. Some of them are still sore that we tossed them out of here 225 years ago....


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~ Mahatma Gandhi, Gandhi, An Autobiography, M. K. Gandhi, page 446.

Karl Hofmann on Fri December 24, 2004 4:02 AM User is offlineView users profile

Hmmm!

Oddly enough, This has not been a topic of conversation for many years and many British neither know nor care that we once held North America as a colony, the British once ruled a quater of the globe. Not bad for a country tha would fit inside one of your great lakes.

Where as many British still live in the past and remember the glory days of standing up to the Nazis single handed (Before you bothered to grace them with your presence) and the 1966 world cup win (Yawn) The only time we hear of the British being removed from America is when Lonny Donigan is played on the radio...Even the British have moved on, perhaps you should too.

Tim,

Those who choose to read the headline and not the content will remain ignorent and stupid, I have no sympathy for them.

Sadly we don't have Dan Rather here, I would be delighted to comment on him as I do on Fox News. At least the content of the BBC report was ballanced.

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TRB on Fri December 24, 2004 4:01 PM User is offlineView users profile

Balanced, if you call a misleading headline balanced!

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UK Tech on Sun December 26, 2004 2:11 PM User is offline

Well it's the usual BBC headline aimed at the anti-US/pro-arab audience that seems to be taking over the country. Of course, they do explain the headline further down for those that can be bothered to read it. You can also be assured that many other news agencies/media outlets will then quote the BBC headline, that's how it works I'm afraid.

Sadly, most won't read further down, they'll just read the headline and use it to confirm their own predjuces.

NickD on Mon December 27, 2004 7:58 AM User is offline

LOL, "EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT", were words I even used as a kid delivering newspapers. It was run like a business, I purchased newspapers from the distributor for 3 cents a piece and resold them for a nickle. Not too bad for a ten year old kid, with a 100 paper route that netted two bucks per day, six days per week or 12 bucks. Sunday's papers sold for 20 cents, and there was a nickle profit per paper for an extra five bucks or 17 bucks per week with normally an extra 3 bucks in tips for 20 bucks per week. With both a morning and an afternoon route, I was making 40 bucks per week in the late 40's. Would normally get a buck tip for Christmas or at least 50 cents per customer.

Always had papers leftover from the route that I had to pay for, a left over newspaper was worthless so would stop at the train station in town and try to sell them reading off the headlines. Headlines sold newspapers, accurate or not, actually it's a major challenge to come up with three or four words to make an article interesting and for the most part, it's call yellow journalism that existed from the time the printing press was first invented. After six years of delivering papers, got tired of it, was tied down constantly seven days a week 365 days per year with deadlines on delivery. Wonder now how I survived the sub zero weather, rain, sleet, and snow, had a one ton Schwinn bike with an oversized front tire and a huge basket on front, I was just a kid.

Perhaps a more suitable headline would be, "US Questions USDN Report", sure isn't very catchy and wouldn't attract attention, but my point is, these headlines have been going on for years, hundreds of years, no big deal, who cares, suppose to grab your attention, and you are suppose to read the article. 99.9% of the headlines are misleading leading to disappointment once you read the article.

Broadcast news is not any difference, always say something to grab your interest before the commercial break, so you will watch the commercial only to get disappointed afterwards. A very old tiresome trick, but what the hell, it still works. Gives a guy an opinion that the public is stupid and gullible, maybe we are.

Ha, it worked Tim, got you to read the article and even post about it.

meaux on Mon December 27, 2004 11:44 AM User is offlineView users profile

I hear ya Nick, isn't it funny when they will say at the end of the 6:00 "news", "Is your wife driving a dangerous minivan? Find out later tonite at 10 o'clock". Wonder how many wives got into accidents between 6 and 10?

I hear that NASCAR is going to OK the advertising of "hard liquor"......yes, but no smoking kids!

What a racket.

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