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JJM on Fri September 16, 2005 1:44 PM User is offline

Political Machine Turned Out Votes N.O. Style
10 November 1996 The Baton Rouge Advocate

NEW ORLEANS - Red beans, parades and a thousand people all were part of the push that got nearly 186,000 voters to New Orleans polls on Election Day and gave Democrat Mary Landrieu a U.S. Senate victory.

Republican Louis "Woody" Jenkins has refused to concede defeat to Landrieu, who had an unofficial 5,899-vote lead after voting machines were opened Friday. The statewide tally released by the secretary of state on Friday was Landrieu 853,076, Jenkins 847,177, the closest Senate election in Louisiana history. Campaign manager Tony Perkins said volunteers will be working all weekend, checking out hundreds of complaints - especially in New Orleans, where Landrieu led Jenkins 143,050 to 42,653.

Bob Tucker, a businessman and close advisor to New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, said it was Morial's get-out-the-vote teams that won the day for Landrieu, President Clinton and Orleans Parish Leader Harry Connick. "All elections begin and end in the streets on election day. That's where the Clinton, Landrieu and Connick team won Tuesday," Tucker said.

For instance, when the management team got word at 3:15 p.m. Tuesday that a GOP tracking poll showed Jenkins ahead, it was time for an instant parade. "Within 45 minutes, we arranged a motorcade," Tucker said. "We found Mary and Marc, got school buses for workers and sound trucks with music and put on a parade to flush out our voters." [emphasis added] Landrieu and Morial waved from campaign manager Norma Jane Sabiston's convertible.

"We moved them into the major housing project areas blowing horns and playing New Orleans music," Tucker said. "We were doing what we do best in New Orleans, having a parade." There were more parades in key areas during "surge time" - late afternoon and evening, when people get off work.

Tucker's teams tracked the turnout all day in target precincts. If the vote was slow compared to past elections, some of the 1,000 street workers were sent there to knock on doors and ask people to vote. A phone bank worked all day, asking voters to go to the polls.

The street workers were divided into two groups of 500 -one for the morning, and one for the afternoon. Those were split into four groups: One to work polling places; one to wave signs at intersections; one to go door-to-door; and one to go to shopping centers and employment centers.

The one time all were together was at lunch, when all 1,000 got a lunch of red beans and rice.

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Unreal, eh?

So when it comes to getting blacks out to VOTE for DEMOCRATS, they can mobilize buses in 45 minutes. Imagine if DEMOCRAT activists used the same zeal to get elected to evacuate New Orleans for a natural disaster. But why bother when just blaming Bush and Republicans is so convenient.

Imagine if Republicans did the same thing. There would be calls for hearings, commissions, committees, impeachment....

How come the media doesn't bring this up?

Yet another CLEAR example that LIBERAL DEMOCRATS are VERMIN!

Joe

Bigchris on Fri September 16, 2005 2:30 PM User is offline

Joe, what planet are you living on?

The REPUBLICAN president has already accepted responsibility for the REPUBLICAN federal government's poor response which prevented more citizens from being rescued earlier. He has also said that the REPUBLICAN government will eat most of the costs of rebuilding NO even better than it was before. The REPUBLICANS don't want to cut spending or raise taxes so the REPUBLICAN government will go back to China and borrow even more money for our grandchildren to pay back.

When the REPUBLICAN leadership of this country gets done spending the whole country into the ditch, we'll all be living like vermin regardless of whether we started out as democrats or republicans.

HECAT on Fri September 16, 2005 3:01 PM User is offline

The Democrats want the poverty ridden voters to get out and vote for them and will even supply buses. But when it is time for the Democrats to help the poverty ridden voters there were no buses, they abandoned them. When the Repulicans come to the aid of the poverty ridden voters the Democrats complain that the Republicans are spending too much money.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!

The city of New Orleans was a Democrat haven full of liberals that allowed it to decay into the cess pool it was before Katrina. The murder capital of our country with corruption, crime , drugs, gays, looters, and nudity in the streets! Remember Sodom and Gamorah.

I agree with George Bush that it will have to be built back better than it was before because no self respecting Republican would want it like it was. However, if given the choice, I would not want a dollar of my tax money spent on rebuilding it.



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Bigchris on Fri September 16, 2005 3:08 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: HECAT
However, if given the choice, I would not want a dollar of my tax money spent on rebuilding it.
Don't you find it odd that the democrats you abhor are the only chance you've got to have a choice?

TRB on Fri September 16, 2005 3:12 PM User is offlineView users profile

Well BigChris I think it is a disgrace what the President stated the past couple days at the UN and in New Orleans. Raising peoples standard of living by spending and or taxing others is not what I'm about. But again you are so willing to jump on Joe's comments yet have failed to ask why the local "Liberals" failed to protect it's citizens. Problem I see besides not being happy with the President is no "Liberal" will admit they made mistakes. Nagin should be held accountable for his failures as much as the people that are being charged with leaving the care centers. The locals failed as much as anyone else so to jump on a high horse saying see Bush did this and that is just another talking point from the "Liberal" left.

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TRB on Fri September 16, 2005 3:17 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: HECAT
However, if given the choice, I would not want a dollar of my tax money spent on rebuilding it.

Don't you find it odd that the democrats you abhor are the only chance you've got to have a choice?

You have got to be kidding me with that comment. Your liberal pals are as socialist as they come, even compared to President Bush!



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Bigchris on Fri September 16, 2005 3:37 PM User is offline

Tim, my response was to Joe's blaming everything on the dems when there is plenty of blame to go around. Of course the local officials screwed up badly, but the idea that democratic officials would let democratic voters die is just insane. Nagin has to take a hit for not moving those buses to higher ground and not having drivers ready for them - no question! But once that mistake was made, the governor and the president came into play. Neither proved capable of getting the job done.

Frankly, I am more than a little concerned about the direction this is going now with the idea being floated that only the military is capable of responding in a disaster of this size. The military is capable because they have been trained to be capable. Why not dump the political hacks out of the FEMA organization and teach those remaining the same organizational skills the military has? This is a constitutional issue regarding the use of the military and not something that needs to be changed just because the Homeland Defense organization set up by this administration turned out to be a flop. We have spent billions on Homeland Defense and I think it's time we demanded payback instead of just blowing it off as someone elses' responsibility.

Bigchris on Fri September 16, 2005 3:43 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: TRB

You have got to be kidding me with that comment. Your liberal pals are as socialist as they come, even compared to President Bush!
I was and I agree. What a delight to see that you're finally paying attention to your elders.

meaux on Fri September 16, 2005 4:23 PM User is offlineView users profile

BigChris says, "Frankly, I am more than a little concerned about the direction this is going now with the idea being floated that only the military is capable of responding in a disaster of this size."

I don't think it's an "idea bieng floated", as we have seen, it's the truth...

BigChris says, "The military is capable because they have been trained to be capable."

What were you just saying? Something about an "idea bieng floated"?

Big Chris says, "Why not dump the political hacks out of the FEMA organization and teach those remaining the same organizational skills the military has?"

Didn't know FEMA was a first responding rescue organisation. They usually show up AFTER a natural disaster to write out the checks...

BigChris says, "This is a constitutional issue regarding the use of the military and not something that needs to be changed just because the Homeland Defense organization set up by this administration turned out to be a flop."

What "constitutional issue"? Is it not the United States Military? Is the President Commander in Chief? Don't we taxpayers pay for this military?

Are you proposing we build a Homeland Defense Military? What does Homeland Defense Organization have to do with a Hurricanies or natural disasters? I don't think we've been attacked in quite a while...I wouldn't call that a "flop". It certainly isn't there for the weather...

I'll say it again, the reason New Awlins is in the shape it's in, is not because of a Hurricaine, it's because the Mayor and Gov. are dysfuntional. It's not G.W. Bush's job to hold these elected officials' hand. If he had went over their heads and taken control, they would be bashing him about overstepping his authority. They (Nagin, Blanco) and those before them, didn't spend FEDERAL LEVEE MONEY on Levees. They pissed it away on other crap, and therefore deserve all the blame...Not 200 Billion FEDERAL TAXPAYER Dollars.





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HECAT on Fri September 16, 2005 4:33 PM User is offline


Don't you find it odd that the democrats you abhor are the only chance you've got to have a choice?




BigChris,

Do you realy believe that if we had a Democrat in charge, say Billary Clinton, that my choice of not spending tax dollars on the rebuilding of New Orleans would come true. NO

You and I agree that the spending has to be better controlled or it is going to put us all in a ditch.

Current situations aside, Democrats are the ones with the bigger history of foolish spending.

Tell me, if you have your way, how is Hillary going to fix this in 2009? With social health care? Put us all on Medicare? Maybe just put us all on Welfare? Yes, thats it, now we are saving some money.


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TRB on Fri September 16, 2005 4:33 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Bigchris
Of course the local officials screwed up badly, but the idea that democratic officials would let democratic voters die is just insane.


Well that is kind of close to accepting blame where it should be, but!!!!!!!!!! we still have work to do with you! Hate to say it but your comment above is exactly what Nagin did by not providing his citizens a plan to evacuate New Orleans. But if you call him on this you are a racists! Sad people have to hide behind the racist card! You know if that card was flipped over, all hell would be breaking loose with the likes of Jesse and AL.

I see the President stated no tax increase for his rebuilding the world plan. Well that means you have to cut funding for other things and we all know the Liberals will not stand for that!


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TRB on Fri September 16, 2005 4:38 PM User is offlineView users profile

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I'll say it again, the reason New Awlins is in the shape it's in, is not because of a Hurricaine, it's because the Mayor and Gov. are dysfuntional. It's not G.W. Bush's job to hold these elected officials' hand. If he had went over their heads and taken control, they would be bashing him about overstepping his authority. They (Nagin, Blanco) and those before them, didn't spend FEDERAL LEVEE MONEY on Levees. They pissed it away on other crap, and therefore deserve all the blame...Not 200 Billion FEDERAL TAXPAYER Dollars.

I agree that is why I'm so pissed at the current response from the President. He got called a racist and now we get to pay for his hurt feelings.



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meaux on Fri September 16, 2005 5:05 PM User is offlineView users profile

TRB says, "I agree that is why I'm so pissed at the current response from the President. He got called a racist and now we get to pay for his hurt feelings."

Thats what pisses me off with Dubya. This silly notion that if he just tries to "get along" with these Socialists, they will meet him halfway on certain things. It ain't happened yet after 5 years, while he hasn't vetoed one single Democratic spending bill, kiss Kennedy's butt, and look what good it has done. He can't spend one single day without bieng called a name by the very people he's been so nice too. Look at the way they attack Judge Roberts...
Democrats act like badly raised kids...

This "I accept the blame (responsibility)" BS has gone too far. I'm so sick of "Politicial Correctness" I could puke. It dosen't do any good, or accomplish a dang thing...maybe women like to hear all this warm and fuzzy crap...

TRB says, " Well that means you have to cut funding for other things and we all know the Liberals will not stand for that!

Now, I'm not gonna stand for that!!! Hey, Liberals will cut funding, (but not spending)...How about that Federal and State Funding for the Levees? They cut that, didn't they? :-)


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TRB on Fri September 16, 2005 5:35 PM User is offlineView users profile

Funding - Spending same thing to me. You and I both know if its there they will spend it!

By the way I "need" an additional building. Will the government provide me with a free building? It will make me feel better about myself!

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meaux on Fri September 16, 2005 6:44 PM User is offlineView users profile

I was just thinking, it's unconstitutional for the Federal Government (every taxpayer in the country's money) to re-build a city after a natural disaster...that is a State problem...and it's even more of a "State" problem because it wasn't a Hurricaine that caused New Awlins all this trouble...The State caused it's own problem...Anyway, I think the private sector would do a much better job with New Awlins than the Government...Trump was gettin ready to build a high rise before this mess happened...I'll bet he changes his mind...if it's his money...:-)





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HerkyJim on Fri September 16, 2005 7:04 PM User is offline

Like I said, the Bush presidency and Republican Congress have not been good things for the USA... Politicians at all levels of government are whores. No news there.

Its going to get a Hell of a lot worse before it gets better, if ever

gregg on Fri September 16, 2005 7:06 PM User is offline

well yawl.......it sounds like dubya becoming a Dixiecrat...throwing all that money at the poor and underprivlaged!!!!

ya lots of blame to go around....I think part of the problem with those arguing anything about politics in this country is they see everything as black or white.....not talkin about people but issues. If he is a Democrat he's a liberal big spender.....if hes a Republican hes a conservative right winger. The right and left over the years have narrowed the gap (old ac joke) between their philosophies so much its tough to tell em apart.

My 3 cents (inflation) is there are good and bad politicians on both sides...the label doesn't make em good or bad.
But there is no accountability for where and how our tax money is spent....regardless of party in power....
The fact is they alll like bigger government and the ability to spend more money.

Doesnt seem to matter who's in charge anyways same ole same ole....seems like the more money thrown at something the less effective the results...more chance for corruption.

Its all a reflection of the way our system works...ever been to a town counsel meeting......now there is a smoooooooooth operation!!!!!!

Man I wish I was able to vote in a national /state or local election first of all knowing what the candidates really stand for. Take the spin doctors out the the equation. Second of all being able to believe anything that comes out
of their mouths. Third get leaders who are responsible to their constituants and can make the right decisions without regard to what it will do to them in the polls.....

We need leaders ...........................not politicians period....................

I heard the party with the big elephant changing theyre name to the reDUBYAcans!!!!!!!

Bigchris on Fri September 16, 2005 7:40 PM User is offline

Gee you guys do go on...

Meux the constitution says the military shall not have police powers over civilians. That is the constitutional issue with making the military first responders - they have no authority.

FEMA doesn't have to be an organization that only hands out checks (which they can't seem to do either). If our military can train civilians in Iraq to be cops and soldiers, they can do the same thing with first responders who work for FEMA here. Why shouldn't FEMA take that role? We had civilian defense workers trained back in the '50s to do that job. Instead of blocking the Red Cross from going in they should be escorting them in.

Hecat the democrats are known for "tax and spend" while the current crop of republicans have modified that to just "spend". What is needed is some diversity of opinion among the republicans instead of them all falling in line with whatever the president utters. Repubs mock dems for their bickering and infighting but there actually are some smart people in Washington who ought to have equal opportunity to voice their opinions. The idea that there are only two ways to deal with any situation, the dem way or the repub way is totally wrong and a disgrace to this great country.

Tim, no new taxes means borrowing more from China unless spending is cut. If you don't know how much this country already owes China's national bank, it might be a real eye opener about dubya's fiscal policies. He's hiding debt in China now but it will all have to be paid back out of your taxes later.

If dubya is half the man that he'd have us believe, I don't think the racist tag matters at all. What matters is that the Republicans were totally in charge of the government when this mess happened and voters have long memories when it comes to things like gas prices and people dying before their eyes...especially when they see the people whose job it is to protect us being caught in lies daily. That's why Mike Brown is gone and there will be more.

TRB on Fri September 16, 2005 8:16 PM User is offlineView users profile

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He's hiding debt in China now but it will all have to be paid back out of your taxes later.

If he is hiding this debt how do you know about it? Secret decoder ring or George Soros?

Gregg, look at Prop 200 here in Arizona. Voters pass this proposition which the Governor and AG decide they did not like. It has not yet been put it into law. So what's the point anymore when the powers that be do what they want even when the voters state what they want. Imagine if a flat tax were in place. I could decide to only spend for my required needs and be happy I'm not footing the bill for something I disapprove approve of! I'm getting tired of working my ass off only to turn around and hand it to the government. Which by the way I have to work a few hours each week collecting money for the government and no cost to them!

Dam gardener did not show up so I have to go mow my yards!

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Bigchris on Fri September 16, 2005 8:40 PM User is offline



Your gardner is probably partying with his compadres in the trucks that brought the hot tamales to the democratic refugees from New Orleans.

Chick on Fri September 16, 2005 9:23 PM User is offlineView users profile

I think we need to vote Tim President, Big Chris VP, Nick D Sec state, and JJ Joint chief..hell, can't be any worse...Go USA!!

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Chick on Fri September 16, 2005 9:25 PM User is offlineView users profile

Don't worry meaux...Tim will give you a cabinet position..Like head of welfare...

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Chick on Fri September 16, 2005 9:42 PM User is offlineView users profile

I just hope the put the cabinet meetings on TV...

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iceman2555 on Fri September 16, 2005 11:53 PM User is offlineView users profile

I wanna be SEC of DEFENSE......become the Dictator of DEFENSE.....

Another thought just ran thru this very conservative.....Bible toten......soft spoken....machine gun carrying.....likes GWB......{and guess that statement about covers the feelings for Clinton....and of course....Kerry}....Republican.....how is it that the school buses.....if they belonged to the school board....were used for a political event such as a 'movement system' for voters......mmmmmmmm?

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Bigchris on Sat September 17, 2005 12:13 AM User is offline

Okay, we're goin to hang the mayor. What's next on the agenda?

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