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bohica2xo on Sat April 05, 2008 2:55 AM User is offline

Ok guys a couple of years ago one of the regulars here posted his "trick" for setting fence posts. I have searched, but I can't seem to locate the thread.

Does anyone recall the title, or perhaps the content of the thread?

B.

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NickD on Sat April 05, 2008 7:04 AM User is offline

I don't recall that thread, but living out in the country had a PTO auger for my Ford 2N for drilling post holes that made that job easy, see they have hand power augers you can rent, but hang on. Been thinking about a fence, but that is as far as it got, just thinking, those hand held post hole diggers are man killers.

Really don't know about any tricks, just a lot of work, lay our your fence, dig the holes, something about calling the utility companies first, throw in some crushed rock for height and drainage, put the post in, pour in concrete, level the post and carefully measure it, especially if you are buying fixed premade sections.

Dang farmers and sheep herders want to fence off our large open country, let's go shoot them. LOL

Edited: Sat April 05, 2008 at 7:05 AM by NickD

GM Tech on Sat April 05, 2008 9:07 AM User is offline

Dad taught me never to use concrete when we "plant" posts--- says you may want to remove it someday- or replace it-and it would take a backhoe to do that. Wooden post of 10 inch diamter we use for end posts usually last for 30 yrs-- the trick without concrete is to get the base well below the freeze level- many new neighbors build there perfect fences- even have them hired done-- and after the first winter, the end post are rarred up in the air about a foot- I plant all my farm field fence end posts at 4 1/2 ft deep- and leave 5 1/2 out of the ground- and I "tamp" in all the fill dirt- heck the power company only goes in a little more than 6 foot--I always follow the utility company around when they are replacing poles- have even drug them home behind my truck for a few miles- you should see the smoke that comes off the end of that pole-- put the heavy end in my truck bed and chain it in- then go fast before any traffic appears- the end on the payement looks like it was in a pencil sharpener- and smoking!!!

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NickD on Sat April 05, 2008 9:26 AM User is offline

I didn't mention putting them deep enough below the frost line, does Bohica even know what a frost line is? LOL. And isn't he planting his proposed posts in sand?

Using an auger with a nice round hole about five inches in diameter adds just about a 2 1/2" rim of concrete that makes corner posts that more rigid and the ground can rise around it. The idiots that did the posts for our ILS system antennas, hand dug the holes and poured a 3' diameter concrete pad around it like a big mushroom, in the winter months, those antennas move all over the place and have to be constantly rephased, but I shouldn't complain, more work and money for me.

TRB on Sat April 05, 2008 3:09 PM User is offlineView users profile

Might be in this post somewhere.

Fence Project

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ice-n-tropics on Mon April 07, 2008 10:21 AM User is offline

Brad,
One day I wanted to set a pole out in the sticks, but didn't have water handy. I was putting up a sign for a citified Ag tree farm, water conservation and all that so the county tax man would give me the exemptions.
I followed Brickmason's method he called "dry set" when I set my post at the entrance to my tree farm. Just used a manual post hole digger and packed dry pre mix in the cylindrical space. Next hunting trip, the concrete had absorbed moisture from the soil and taken a set

Brad, You let your Yahoo mail site expire therefore my e-mail to you boom=a ranged.
Cordially,
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bohica2xo on Mon April 07, 2008 12:26 PM User is offline

Tex:

That was the one I was looking for - Thanks!

I wanted to share this with someone who is about to set a bunch of stuff, and has to haul water (or so he believes!)

For all of the other replies:

I don't set fence posts in concrete, my property here is surrounded by a block wall... Fence post pic to follow when I find the damn thing.

"Frost Line" What is this you speak of? Snow never stays he more than a day or two... The property in AZ gets some snow, but the frost line measured in mm

Ok, now I want to see the video of the utility pole drag!

B.


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"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
~ Mahatma Gandhi, Gandhi, An Autobiography, M. K. Gandhi, page 446.

NickD on Mon April 14, 2008 8:50 AM User is offline

My son built his home in a community where it's legal to drive a point well strictly for a lawn sprinkling system, but not for drinking water, that has to be supplied by the city. In my city it's illegal to drive a point well, regardless of it's use. But he is running into conflicts with his county and state DNR that claims he still needs a county and state permit to drive that well, interesting, he is living on top of a lake with a huge water table only ten feet below the surface.

Since frost here is a problem, said he should have thought ahead and drove the well in his basement, but that is illegal he tells me unless you have a walkout basement, if you have a 275 gallon fuel oil tank in your basement, that oil can spill into your well, where with a walkout basement would flow out the door. But he doesn't have a fuel tank in his basement, still doesn't make any difference, the closest he can come to within his home is 14 feet, this puts the pump outside with freezing problems to deal with. And then he has to pay $125 for water testing to make sure the water is safe to drink, even though he is not permitted to drink it. And if the water is proven unsafe to drink, his well will have to be sealed with concrete and condemned. Even though he is just using that water to sprinkle his lawn. Told him to buy a 2" union so he could pull his pump in the fall time and to meet the electrical code, maybe we will just drive the pump with an extension cord. His well can also be condemned if it doesn't meet a minimum the minimum water output capacity of the state, has to be at least ten gpm.

Ha, told my son, if it were my property, would just grow weeds and wait until the community got teed off, maybe then they will change the laws. What is it with these agencies? I already had a argument with our building inspector regarding what kind of fence I could put in, said the heck with it.

MikeH on Thu June 12, 2008 12:10 PM User is offline

My next door neighbors replaced their fence. For the posts they used a new drive-in-ground 4x4 metal holder. The spike is about 2 ft long and they even sell a driver so you can keep it straight. Then you just slip the post into it and tighten the holding bolts. Home Depot says they will last for about 10 years.

NickD on Thu June 12, 2008 1:50 PM User is offline

Ha, ten years passes in a flash, installed a cedar fence in concrete in a home back in 1968, happen to drive by last year, fence is still standing, so was the house. But the road went to hell.

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