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JJM on Sat April 18, 2009 2:57 PM User is offline

I almost bust a gut laughing so hard at this one...

Solar Finds It Hard To Squeeze Water From Desert

(AP) A westward dash to power electricity-hungry cities by cashing in on the desert's most abundant resource _ sunshine _ is clashing with efforts to protect the tiny pupfish and desert tortoise and stinginess over the region's rarest resource: water.

Water is the cooling agent for what traditionally has been the most cost-efficient type of large-scale solar plants. To some solar companies answering Washington's push for renewable energy on vast government lands, it's also an environmental thorn. The unusual collision pits natural resources protections against President Barack Obama's plans to produce more environmentally friendly energy.


(read on by clicking the link above)

I remember Bohica enlightening us how dirty solar is, but now we find out how wasteful solar can also be in terms of one of the most precious of natural resources - water - which is of course essential to life, and especially so in the desert. Do any of these over educated morons ever think these things through?

Too bad these weenies hate guns, because I propose we give both these environmental groups AR-15's and let them battle it out. The eventual outcome will certainly be much improved.

Then we've got these abject buffoons - asswipes essentially - in Congress and the White House who want even more of the same:

Congress Weighs Far-reaching Global Warming Bill

(AP) The last time Congress passed major environmental laws, acid rain was destroying lakes and forests, polluted rivers were on fire and smog was choking people in some cities.

The fallout from global warming, while subtle now, could eventually be even more dire. That prospect has Democrats pushing legislation that rivals in scope the nation's landmark anti-pollution laws.

Lawmakers this coming week begin hearings on an energy and global warming bill that could revolutionize how the country produces and uses energy. It also could reduce, for the first time, the pollution responsible for heating up the planet.

If Congress balks, the Obama administration has signaled a willingness to use decades-old clean air laws to impose tough new regulations for motor vehicles and many industrial plants to limit their release of climate-changing pollution.

The Environmental Protection Agency on Friday said rising sea levels, increased flooding and more intense heat waves and storms that come with climate change are a threat to public health and safety. The agency predicted that warming will worsen other pollution problems such as smog.


(oh yes, and by all means read on by clicking the link above)

Does anyone remember what happened with the last big environmental bill? It was in 1990, where the requirement for oxygenated fuels was imposed. Turns out that "clean burning" fuel with its MTBE was ending up in our drinking water supplies, causing cancer. What a bunch of ignorant jackasses! And remember the "acid rain" scare of the 1980s, largely caused by the emission regulations imposed a decade before, where manufacturers had to tack on sulfur emitting catalyic converters to meet "clean" air requirements? Idiots!

What will be the unintended consequences of this next piece of legislation, aside from lower standards of living as the likelihood of converting a recession into a depression?

Apparently, critical thinking - or any thinking for that matter - is dead in the United States. The proof is in our last two elections.

Joe

TRB on Sat April 18, 2009 4:54 PM User is offlineView users profile

Report: Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking

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Karl Hofmann on Sun April 19, 2009 4:28 AM User is offlineView users profile

Ha!... The smart part of you guys should know already that environmental issues have nothing to do with saving the Earth.... It's about making money

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NickD on Fri April 24, 2009 7:58 AM User is offline

Ethanol plants are going bankrupt here, not that I am crying about that, hate the stuff, get poor economy regardless of what they say, had major corrosions problems, and would get the cheap gas without the ethanol for detonation problems as well.

Who said that alcohol and gas don't mix?

Not only the 50% decrease in the cost of gas, no one thought about the cost of corn going up from a $1.50 to over nine bucks a bushel that also skyrocketed the price of meat and diary products, so where is the savings?

The real winners for a time were the corn producers, must have put our governor in office, not only that, but each of these corporation farms were treated as a separate entity, so each could hire up to three illegals and not be touched. Not sure how they got around that, but definitely a bit of corruption here. Plus ethanol production was subsidized by the state increasing our tax liability.

Still feel hybrid cars are a bad joke with all of that extra crap with no one really looking at the total picture. To me, green means corruption, we already have way too much of that. Argon filled windows also have me teed off, save a couple of bucks on fuel, but have to spend thousands to replace the stupid things when they start leaking. Hot water heaters with a tax break are only tested when in operation, not when they are standing around doing nothing. Now I see induction motor stator windings are no longer dipped in varnish, what idiot started this? And they all are doing this, expect to buy a new motor as soon as the warranty runs out. Recycling of this Chinese unrepairable soon to be obsoleted is also becoming an issue. When I go shopping today, only seeing junk in our stores and they call this progress?

Voyager97 on Sat April 25, 2009 6:48 PM User is offlineView users profile

Here's another well thought out idea to save the planet.

The UK government plans to build new coal-fired power stations and store their CO2 output underground.
The power stations will pump the CO2 through a nationwide network of pipes, then store it in sealed chambers.

Brilliant idea. Except they seem to have overlooked the amount of CO2 that will be produced by heavy plant machinery when installing that network of pipes, which will have to be buried underground the same as gas, water, and oil pipelines are already. Then there's the CO2 produced by the large number of pumping stations that will be needed to pump the CO2 through the system.

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Karl Hofmann on Sun April 26, 2009 4:14 AM User is offlineView users profile

Ha... That suggestion made me laugh too... Why not pack it on to a big old rocket and shoot it in to space? Incapabillity Brown has also announced a £5000 rebate on electric cars which increases the need for these coal fired power stations... This CO2 stuff is becoming scarier stuff than neuclear waste... which brings me to the obvious question... why not build Neuclear and plant more trees??

As I said this climate change stuff is a convinient way to provide solutions to problems that don't actually exist.. ut it does make a tidy profit for those on the band waggon

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NickD on Sun April 26, 2009 6:57 AM User is offline

Ha, Karl, watched that new James Bond movie last night, Quantum of Solace where these green guys, like Dominic Greene in the movie are doing all this stuff to get super rich and control the world. Mr. Greene gave a speech in that movie, swore it was Al Gore talking. Your prime minister is in on it, but fortunately, these bad people are no match for James Bond.

HerkyJim on Mon April 27, 2009 12:30 AM User is offline

Ran across a review of this

www.withouthotair.com

today while reading a magazine during a very long airplane ride across the Pacific. Haven't had a chance to download and read the whole thing. Since its by a physicist, it probably has lots of numbers. Nick ought to love it...

Edited: Mon April 27, 2009 at 12:32 AM by HerkyJim

NickD on Mon April 27, 2009 6:50 AM User is offline

Sustainable Energy Without the BS.

Added a clickable link, sounds like typical British Humour/

Just briefly looked at vehicles and often wondered about how much energy we are wasting each day transferring our idiot kids to an idiot school to sit in front of an idiot teacher for six hours, then bring them back home where maybe they picked up one or two facts, like B comes after A, maybe, would forget that the next day. But this is the law. We also transfer a lot of adult idiots to government offices so they pretend they are doing some good and back home each day.

Recently finishing up with the USCIS, had to drive my wife a total of 1,370 miles for her to get her right index finger printed three different times, USCIS says it cost to much to save this rather small electronic file. What a waste of gas and of time, but so typical of our laws.

JJM on Wed April 29, 2009 9:40 PM User is offline

I think Karl has the right idea. As much as I hate the thought of scamming people, maybe jumping on the band wagon and profiting from this stupidity is what we need to do. But how could anyone live with themselves perpetrating such a hoax. Then again you know what they say about fools and their money being parted.

Only problem is that in the end, it will hurt everyone - even those who profited - given private property rights are routinely tramped in favor of environmental concerns; they'll likely see their profits confiscated by the very same big government they helped empower.

Either way, it's all over for the once great USA.

Joe

P.S. GM (Government Motors) will be finished off too. Who's gonna buy the cars Obama, Pelosi, and Reid will be forcing GM to make. At least this will be a boon for foreign automakers, and poetic justice for all the Democrat supporting union workers who will be unemployed.

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