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Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:53 am
by Tim
Doesn't matter where you add the dye/oil. It's all going to be mixed up in 10 seconds once you run the system.

More importantly, did you get all the flush out of the system? Any flushing agent left behind will break down your oil and cause a compressor failure.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:47 am
by Cusser
kenlou wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:26 am I would add that to the high side in other words, inlet side of the evaporator, correct?
Since there's currently no charge, I'd add to the most convenient place. Even if you are suspecting/checking for a leak in the evaporator.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:11 pm
by kenlou
More importantly, did you get all the flush out of the system? Any flushing agent left behind will break down your oil and cause a compressor failure.
I blew air in the evaporator for 20 minutes off and on and got nothing but air out.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:26 pm
by JohnHere
I agree with Tim. Adding dye to the TXV side or the suction side of the evaporator, I don't believe it makes any difference.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:40 am
by kenlou
Backing up to your previous post:
Just the opposite...the outlet side of the evaporator is the other larger diameter line. The thinner high-pressure line is the liquid line that feeds refrigerant to the TXV and then to the evaporator, and it runs from the R/D to the TXV/evap.
John, you’ve got me confused here. The thinner high pressure liquid line on my truck runs from the condenser to the smaller line on the evaporator which is the inlet, correct?
So, if I flushed the evaporator through the larger diameter evaporator line (this line comes from the R/D on my truck) I am “back-flushing” the evaporator. Is this the preferred way of flushing the evaporator?

I did use the complete gallon of flush and it was clear when I was finished flushing.
Each time the flushing canister was empty, I continued blowing air into the evaporator for a few seconds.

When I completed the flushing, I used my air gun to blow into the evaporator for a good 20 minutes and when finished, I got nothing but air out of that line. I am using a pancake compressor with an additional 10 gal tank and a
NEPIKE 3 Stage Air Compressor Drying System, Particulate & Coalescing Filters, Auto Drain Air Compressor Water Separator System Filter


In hindsight, I wish I would have kept track of how much flush actually came out of the evaporator as I was flushing it.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:34 am
by JohnHere
kenlou wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:40 am John, you’ve got me confused here. The thinner high pressure liquid line on my truck runs from the condenser to the smaller line on the evaporator which is the inlet, correct?
Yes.
kenlou wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:40 am So, if I flushed the evaporator through the larger diameter evaporator line (this line comes from the R/D on my truck) I am “back-flushing” the evaporator. Is this the preferred way of flushing the evaporator?
I think the system on your truck has an accumulator, not a R/D. If so, then what you're describing is correct. To be absolutely thorough, you can also flush the evaporator in both directions. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with that.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:11 am
by kenlou
I got the pag oil and 1/4 ounce of dye into the evaporator and got the line from the compressor to evaporator connected. I will replace the accumulator but before I do I was wondering if there is a way of finding the correct oring for my two condenser lines.
The condenser did not have orings included and the ones taken off the old were quite funky to get a measurement. What is the best way of determining the correct oring size for the two condenser fittings on this truck?

When I tighten the fitting it just does not feel right.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:27 pm
by JohnHere
Recently, I posted this for someone else:

Be sure to use the green HNBR o-rings of the correct size, coat them and the mating surfaces with Nylog Blue (a little goes a long way), reassemble, evacuate, recharge to specs, and I doubt whether you'll have any more leakage problems.

I recommend having on hand a compartmented plastic box of different sizes of green HNBR o-rings so that you will be assured of finding the right ones.


To my knowledge, there's nothing in print that specifies what size o-ring to use for a given application. A sizing gauge that measures an o-ring's diameter and thickness might help in determining dimensions by measuring the old ones on the gauge, together with your best guess.

Nylog Blue not only ensures a tight seal but also lubricates the o-rings so that you don't damage them on installation.

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:06 pm
by kenlou
I got it buttoned up today and put it under vacuum for 40 minutes and shut down and after 30 minutes it held steady.

So I connected my CPS vacuum gauge and put it back under vacuum. After 10 minutes the gauge read 270 microns.

I am going to keep the vacuum pump running all night and will check it at noon tomorrow.

And yes I did use nylog blue on all o-rings and threaded connections.

I haven’t done it yet but I will check all a/c related fuses and relays tomorrow also.



When this project is completed, I will be making a donation to the site for sure.

Kenny

Re: 2004 F-150 Heritage AC

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:21 pm
by kenlou
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it will not leak under pressure. I am ready to get away from this project.